beshoo
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| Posted: 06/27/2002, 1:58 PM |
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In my side I like CC2.5 more than CCS
It is more fast to do what you need
I do not need the IDE cos I like DW-MX to do my work
Do you have any plan to update CC2.5 in (generated section) to be look like CCS
I think it is really serious thing cos if you change the fundamental way of the generating in CCS and I think it is to GOOD side not a to bad side
However, I have some????????????
That if I made a small project in CCS it will go to 180KB
(And a lot of cods )
No one will understand the code it is miles of coding (G)
However, if u made it in CC it will be 60KB
It is a big different
The advantage that CCS has:
1- It is use OOP and it is good
2- It has a nice styles
3- It has a new JavaScript function
4- If you like to make an email program you don’t have to write the mail() code
Disadvantage is :
1- it is very slow
2- you have to relearn it
3- it is crash a lot
4- the work space is very small
5- it is look like front page
6- and the forms probates is very small to see
7- just make you confuse
8- it have a bug in the code viewing (I informed CC team and they accept that)
9- it take a LOT of ram and system resource
10- the IDE is to bad
11- the IDE you will not fell that you can do what u need in it like DW
12- I don’t need the IDE but I need the OOP
13- I think the way that CC2 work I mean the semblance of CC2 it is more actively and more fast to have what you need
So it is better to make CC2 look like CCS "fundamentally" in a manner of speaking
So it will be good step for CC cos I don't like the visual IDE section
CC2 is FASTER.
So please update CC2 to be like CCS in the code fundamentally section
In addition, abut the Default Style
I rely love CCS new Style
In addition, the small images it is rally nice
Please can CC2 have same Styles?
In addition, let it work with OOP
Has the JavaScript and the other facilities but with out bad IDE
Let the form like it CC2
What do you think?
please say what do you think :)
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Chris
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| Posted: 06/27/2002, 3:29 PM |
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In my opinion CCS is not as mature as CC yet very promising. I don't think CC 1.0 looked that nice and smooth.
After few months, when performance and bugs will be fixed CCS will be a great tool, and then new features will pop up...
I agree, that CCS needs some time to stabilize and polish, but I wouldn't like to start learning it when everybody will be using it, I want to be one of the first users. To test it, to suggest new features, not to use 5 tools for my daily development.
The problem with code size is the same as with most OOP languages, their executables are enormous comparing to procedural languages (compare C and C++), what you get instead is ease of development and abstraction of concepts for really big applications.
I like CCS IDE, comparing to CC's slooooow user interface, it rocks. But again, maturity, maturity maturity. After polishing it will be great IDE, editor and HTML designer.
What I miss in CCS is a quick access to page definition forms similar to CC. I know that wizards can be used to define record/grid contents, but when it's created there's no way to return back to wizard. Reordering, changing bindings etc, all that requires to use property pages and HTML editing. I would like to have CC tab as alternative to Design, HTML, Code. CodeCharge tab that would display similar view as CodeCharge Page. That could be interesting... You could still use it as CC, not touching Design, Code etc, those would be used only for customization...
And the last feature that CCS has over CC is user interface customization. For power users it is possible to create own wizards, own controls, own types of forms. Everything is possible when you browse Components directory...
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beshoo
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| Posted: 06/27/2002, 7:45 PM |
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Really thank you Mr. Chris for this review
I think CCS is GOOD but in my side I don’t like the IDE
I have a good reason
1- when you will made your project you have to concentrate on the structure not the design section
I like CC2 interface and I like to have CCS with 2 interface for IDE and for
NON-IDE it will be wonderful
About the OOP I like to know
Is OOP press on the server resource ? cos the PHP analyzer has to read a lot of code ?
I like the CC2 interface and how can u change from grade to tree to search by one click
You don’t have to see (some stuff in your design look like FrontPage)
The interface in CC is FAST than CCS I mean "psychological" cos you will focus
One the structure not on the LOOK the look will be after structure
And CC go from 1.6 to 2.0 to - 2.1 - 2.2 - 2.3- 2.4 - 2.5 in a same interface
And with no monition they change all thing 
there is no fair (LOOOOOL)
That what I think
Hope I have a good sound ………
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smart si
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| Posted: 06/28/2002, 4:56 AM |
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I think beshoo has a nice sound
Hobe SSC to be more good to be the best
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UP
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| Posted: 06/28/2002, 2:59 PM |
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UP
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shin
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| Posted: 03/20/2003, 8:18 PM |
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I think so.
I have used CC first and upgrade CCS.
CCS crash very open that cause to me trouble.
I regret to buy CCS,and so return to CC.
CCS is not complete program to buy.
if i know CCS crash problem more early,not to buy...
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Jerry
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| Posted: 03/20/2003, 8:38 PM |
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CC is a very convinient tool for generating a moderate personal web site.
For PHP & JSP, It uses very simple template and generates very simple code, So, I could understand everything inside the generated codes. So I succeded to fix the template and Common.jsp and made a Categorian Select Dropdown function.
But it's not sufficient to develope a real Business solution.
For example, it doesn't give us db connection pool function. Even if you use Oracle DBMS, you will have no choice but look through your customers waiting while your codes are tring to make connections to db. (pls any one let me know the method to use connection pool in CC) (And CC2.0 has errors in dropdown list box function. CC2.0.5 fixed it.)
CCS is a very inconvinient tool to make a wonderful Business Suit.
It was a painful passage to install CCS and make it work in JSP & Oracle environment. It's not easy to learn how to use CCS.
It crashs well while you are editing, generating codes.
I could not find the way to put my own style sheet file.
And I found it's not easy to understand the generated codes. CCS generates fully organized oop codes.
You need to have good knowleadge about XML.
This is not a tool for novices.
However, The codes shows web pages well. And It seems robust enough to service for a lot of web customers.
Conclusion.
I will try to use CCS rather than CC.
I expect CCS will be more stabilized.
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