imranz
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| Posted: 09/19/2002, 8:53 AM |
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I consider myself pretty seasoned with the original CodeCharge application. I've created dozens of large sites, worked on many smaller component applications, and more. I've been using it to put my work into hyperspeed now for well over a year, and I've made lots of money with it along the way :)
I must say, I had originally been vary leary of starting up with CodeCharge Studio because I was hearing so many off-putting remarks about it. I heard people saying it was really buggy and would crash their system constantly. I heard it didn't do what it promised. I heard it was incredibly difficult to work with.
Well, I finally bit the bullet to see for myself, and delved into it with a new Intranet-type project. Now, several weeks later of full-time heavy duty coding, I can honestly say, I have no idea what all the crying was about. Studio has NEVER crashed my system, I have only encountered maybe one inconsequential bug which I logged with support and they're working on it, and it succeeds in impressing me further when I thought nothing could impress me more than the original CodeCharge did.
Yes, Studio is not for the non-developer. But if you ARE a developer, and you've used the original CodeCharge and were occasionally frustrated by the box that it put you in regarding some things, then Studio is like being liberated. It's like being an AOL user for 3 years and then discovering that AOL is not the full story of the Internet by any means (sorry to aol users - I just have to take the pot shot when I can)
I still have a lot of projects in original CC format, and I am happy to leave them there. But man, I am only doing new projects in CCS from here on out. The flexibility, the power, the speed, the holes that CC had that CCS now fills.
I'm very much enamored with YesSoftware all over again. And I can't wait until future revisions of this 1.07 product. Amazing - what 1.07 product is this good?
And to you developers out there, don't let the newbies get you down. Yes, original CC is easier to use. But that don't make it better :)
Code on,
imranz
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The Whiz
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| Posted: 09/19/2002, 9:52 AM |
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Well now that you’ve got to grips with CCS. I suggest you get yourself a dictionary and read that. I presume you meant ‘weary’ when you said “I had originally been vary leary of starting up with CodeCharge Studio”?
Maybe I’m a ‘newbee’ but I can spell 
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imranz
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| Posted: 09/19/2002, 12:05 PM |
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Dearest Whiz, thank you for your very constructive analysis of my words. With approximately 381 words in my post and one error, I would put that at a success rate of 99.7%, and so I'll take your comment as a compliment.
The purpose of my post was to give further kudos to YesSoftware, which I have loudly been doing since day one.
Sorry if somehow you took offense to it.
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eDuck
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| Posted: 09/19/2002, 12:15 PM |
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Amen, Amen, Amen on your post. I feel exactly the same way. I think the people that do the best with CCS are like you say developers with a thorough knowledge of their programming language. CCS leave room to inject code everywhere, so the only thing the developer need to do is get creative, and that will only happen if you know your programming language.
My crashes have been isolated to my own errors, and not that of CodeCharge. I also read an article or review of CCS in some tech magazine. The reviewers closing remark was that the only negative was 'cookie-cutter' sites. I thought, heck, what are you talking about. It's only cookie-cutter if you take the samples and leave them as is. For the rest, you have as much flexibility as any other HTML authoring tool.
So, I applaud your comments, and like you, I eccho - YOU HAVE A CHOICE - AOHell, now I have really stepped into it.
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imranz
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| Posted: 09/19/2002, 12:17 PM |
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Oh, also, 'Wary' would be more accurate than 'Weary' and I meant neither. What I mean to type was leery, not leary.
This is all very funny to me.
Thanks again.
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Ken
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| Posted: 09/19/2002, 1:10 PM |
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Amen imranz!
I tried unsucessfully to point out this issue with developers and non-developers with the use of CCS. You have a better way with words than I do, even if you were only 99.7% correct in your choice of them! LOL!!
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The Whiz
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| Posted: 09/19/2002, 2:15 PM |
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I certainly haven’t taken offence at the kudos’ offered to Yes Software – once we actually reached the relevant part after a paragraph all about you.
In fact, your observations on the software were quite factual and interesting, it’s the view from your high horse of newbies I found most nauseating.
Oh and thanks for the apology though certainly not required – anyone can make a mistake 
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imranz
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| Posted: 09/20/2002, 6:31 AM |
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Thanks Ken and eDuck. I'm happy to see that you understand that my short case study wasn't an exercise in self promotion, but rather an attempt to share my experience with CCS with fellow developers, much as I would have liked to hear myself earlier from someone else.
Mr. Whiz, I don't really know what to say to you. This is supposed to be a community to share code and experiences. I just don't get you.
Thanks.
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LaQuixa
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| Posted: 09/20/2002, 7:02 AM |
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So, now that you've got the hang of it, would you be willing to do some starting CCS tutorials? I am a developer, but new to CCS and never used CC. I'd be happy to learn from what have already.
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imranz
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| Posted: 09/20/2002, 7:08 AM |
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I will, most definitely, be working on some shortly. Whenever I do get them done, I'll post them onto this site's tips/articles section.
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LaQuixa
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| Posted: 09/20/2002, 7:20 AM |
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That's Great!! Way cool.
(I wish someone would remake this bbs script, it's annoying. ack! + it needs user profiles)
-LaQuixa
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Jeremy
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| Posted: 09/20/2002, 8:48 AM |
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I'm in agreement with you.....the product is great and I sometimes wonder what all the complaining is about. It's a RAD despite what the newbies say.
Kudos again to CC staff and developers.
-Jeremy
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Rob
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| Posted: 09/20/2002, 4:58 PM |
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Imranz,
Thanks for that info. It was just the kind of testimonial I was looking for. By the way, contrary to "The Whiz" (ironic someone using that alias is so worried about other people's supposed self-promotion), I found your first paragraph to be very helpful in terms on knowing where you were coming from. Great post.
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