Randy Bolser
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| Posted: 04/23/2003, 2:53 PM |
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Quick Question... is the "Gererated with CodeCharge Studio" logo or whatever
you call it, displayed in the purchased version?
If is is, guess I need to look for some new software!
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Shawn Mason
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| Posted: 04/23/2003, 2:59 PM |
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No, it is not on a purchased version.
--
Kindest Regards,
Shawn Mason,CCD,MCP
I.S. Software Design Associates
"Randy Bolser" <rbolser@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:b87202$gvr$1@news.codecharge.com...
> Quick Question... is the "Gererated with CodeCharge Studio" logo or
whatever
> you call it, displayed in the purchased version?
>
> If is is, guess I need to look for some new software!
>
>
>
>
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bas
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| Posted: 05/05/2003, 1:36 PM |
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ah, but the source still contains Generator = 'CODECHARGE'
which is a real pain....
"Shawn Mason" <shawn@issda.com> wrote in message
news:b872bh$hrq$1@news.codecharge.com...
> No, it is not on a purchased version.
>
> --
> Kindest Regards,
>
> Shawn Mason,CCD,MCP
> I.S. Software Design Associates
>
> "Randy Bolser" <rbolser@attbi.com> wrote in message
>news:b87202$gvr$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > Quick Question... is the "Gererated with CodeCharge Studio" logo or
> whatever
> > you call it, displayed in the purchased version?
> >
> > If is is, guess I need to look for some new software!
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Shawn Mason
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| Posted: 05/05/2003, 4:47 PM |
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True, but I can look at anyone's source and tell if it was Front Page or
Dreamweaver as well. Other tools I'm sure I could figure out but I haven't
taken the time to look at the uniqueness in most of them.
--
Kindest Regards,
Shawn Mason,CCD,MCP
I.S. Software Design Associates
"bas" <bas@_nosmap.com> wrote in message
news:b96i0a$i1n$1@news.codecharge.com...
> ah, but the source still contains Generator = 'CODECHARGE'
> which is a real pain....
>
> "Shawn Mason" <shawn@issda.com> wrote in message
>news:b872bh$hrq$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > No, it is not on a purchased version.
> >
> > --
> > Kindest Regards,
> >
> > Shawn Mason,CCD,MCP
> > I.S. Software Design Associates
> >
> > "Randy Bolser" <rbolser@attbi.com> wrote in message
> >news:b87202$gvr$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > > Quick Question... is the "Gererated with CodeCharge Studio" logo or
> > whatever
> > > you call it, displayed in the purchased version?
> > >
> > > If is is, guess I need to look for some new software!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Jeff Stuart
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| Posted: 05/06/2003, 11:19 AM |
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On Mon, 5 May 2003 23:09:44 +0100
"bas" <bas@_nosmap.com> wrote:
> ah, but the source still contains Generator = 'CODECHARGE'
> which is a real pain....
And this is a PROBLEM why??? If you MUST have it removed, just use a global search and replace tool when publishing the code to a production server.
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JCrowe
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| Posted: 05/22/2003, 9:00 PM |
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The problem is it is non-standard. Neither Dreamweaver or FrontPage list
"Pages Generated By (Product Name Here)"
"Jeff Stuart" <jstuart@computer-city.net> wrote in message
news:20030506142001.63860525.jstuart@computer-city.net...
> On Mon, 5 May 2003 23:09:44 +0100
> "bas" <bas@_nosmap.com> wrote:
>
> > ah, but the source still contains Generator = 'CODECHARGE'
> > which is a real pain....
>
> And this is a PROBLEM why??? If you MUST have it removed, just use a
global search and replace tool when publishing the code to a production
server.
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Dave Rexel
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| Posted: 05/23/2003, 1:26 PM |
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> > > ah, but the source still contains Generator = 'CODECHARGE'
> > > which is a real pain....
Pain??? why???
- the code-generator CC or CCS has generated the majority of the code, not
the *programmer* who has used ->tweaked this innovative and unique tool.
- having used the code-generation of this visionary product the *programmer*
now chooses to hide this fact from the customer/site visitor, why? to lie
that the code was entirely written by said *programmer* ('cuse me while I
puke at the sheer blatant untruthfullness/unthankfullness of said
*programmer*)
- to remove this from sites generated from trial versions is robbing
YesSoftware of sales, and it this pirate attitude can destroy this very
promising but ack so small teams success, surely none of us want to kill the
goose that lays the golden eggs?
Please reconsider the need to remove due credit from source, it does not
wear the wisher well.
Dave
"Randy Bolser" <rbolser@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:b87202$gvr$1@news.codecharge.com...
> Quick Question... is the "Gererated with CodeCharge Studio" logo or
whatever
> you call it, displayed in the purchased version?
>
> If is is, guess I need to look for some new software!
>
>
>
>
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JCrowe
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| Posted: 05/28/2003, 5:53 AM |
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Having the product name in the code generally should not be problem and
follows, what has been in the past, an acceptable practice. The problem lays
by having it flashed on everypage CCS generates without choice. That is not
standard practice. As far as YES Software is concerned it becomes "free
advertising" somewhat similar to auto dealers placing their slogans on your
license plate holder...i.e Village Lincoln Mercury, Hometown USA,
555-555-1212. How many of those have you removed before ?
Anyone who cares to look at the car can tell it is a Ford or Lincoln or
Mercury...we dont need to be forced to advertise. A much better option would
be to offer the *Programmer* or the "reseller of services" the option to
place a professionally designed logo in the corner of the page. Personnally
as a new comer to CCS learning to build ASP pages I would be proud to show
off the tools...but dont force on me.
Enjoy,
JCrowe
"Dave Rexel" <therex_spamenot@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bam064$eus$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > > > ah, but the source still contains Generator = 'CODECHARGE'
> > > > which is a real pain....
>
>
> Pain??? why???
>
> - the code-generator CC or CCS has generated the majority of the code, not
> the *programmer* who has used ->tweaked this innovative and unique tool.
> - having used the code-generation of this visionary product the
*programmer*
> now chooses to hide this fact from the customer/site visitor, why? to lie
> that the code was entirely written by said *programmer* ('cuse me while I
> puke at the sheer blatant untruthfullness/unthankfullness of said
> *programmer*)
> - to remove this from sites generated from trial versions is robbing
> YesSoftware of sales, and it this pirate attitude can destroy this very
> promising but ack so small teams success, surely none of us want to kill
the
> goose that lays the golden eggs?
>
> Please reconsider the need to remove due credit from source, it does not
> wear the wisher well.
>
> Dave
>
>
> "Randy Bolser" <rbolser@attbi.com> wrote in message
>news:b87202$gvr$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > Quick Question... is the "Gererated with CodeCharge Studio" logo or
> whatever
> > you call it, displayed in the purchased version?
> >
> > If is is, guess I need to look for some new software!
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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michael weaver
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| Posted: 05/28/2003, 10:23 AM |
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I don't understand. You've purchased CCS and are still receiving this
message? I started using CodeCharge since the very early days, and I'm now
using CCS2, and I haven't had any "Generated By" messages since I first
downloaded the trial. You have purchased a copy, correct?
If you have purchased a copy then there is obviously a problem because it
shouldn't show up. You might need to uninstall, download the newest version
and reinstall. That should fix any problems you are receiving.
If you haven't purchased a copy, and if you are indeed using the trial then
you need to commit or look elsewhere. I don't believe that Yes Software
believes it is free advertising. I think it is a deterrant to using the
trial software for production. It is a $500 piece of software that they
allow trial users to use without any limitations except for a time limit and
a tiny line that says "Generated by CCS" or whatever. They could do what
other software companies do, and not allow projects to be saved, or not
allow publishing the pages at all. Those are also considered acceptable
practices by some. This is the best possible solution for Yes Software, and
it is totally understandable to me.
The price of CCS pays for itself many times over in one project alone, and
in my opinion should be much higher. Not a popular view, I know, but you get
such a great ROI for it that it's almost obscene. Think about it - one
dynamic website can call for a price between $1k and $20k or more, easily.
That's one project. CCS, with its limitations and bugs and all, cuts down on
development time dramatically. That saves (and makes) the development team
money by allowing them to work on more projects, and heck, it can even save
your clients money in reduced development time. It also opens you up to
more projects and allows you to upsell to your current clients if you aren't
already offering dynamic modules for your sites.
I don't use CCS for everything, but it's the right tool for the job many
times. If you haven't purchased it, I say take the plunge. There's now
decent documentation, a helpful community here and at www.codechargers.com .
michael
"JCrowe" <jcrowe@home.net> wrote in message
news:bb2bfh$rik$1@news.codecharge.com...
> Having the product name in the code generally should not be problem and
> follows, what has been in the past, an acceptable practice. The problem
lays
> by having it flashed on everypage CCS generates without choice. That is
not
> standard practice. As far as YES Software is concerned it becomes "free
> advertising" somewhat similar to auto dealers placing their slogans on
your
> license plate holder...i.e Village Lincoln Mercury, Hometown USA,
> 555-555-1212. How many of those have you removed before ?
>
> Anyone who cares to look at the car can tell it is a Ford or Lincoln or
> Mercury...we dont need to be forced to advertise. A much better option
would
> be to offer the *Programmer* or the "reseller of services" the option to
> place a professionally designed logo in the corner of the page.
Personnally
> as a new comer to CCS learning to build ASP pages I would be proud to show
> off the tools...but dont force on me.
>
> Enjoy,
> JCrowe
>
> "Dave Rexel" <therex_spamenot@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:bam064$eus$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > > > > ah, but the source still contains Generator = 'CODECHARGE'
> > > > > which is a real pain....
> >
> >
> > Pain??? why???
> >
> > - the code-generator CC or CCS has generated the majority of the code,
not
> > the *programmer* who has used ->tweaked this innovative and unique tool.
> > - having used the code-generation of this visionary product the
> *programmer*
> > now chooses to hide this fact from the customer/site visitor, why? to
lie
> > that the code was entirely written by said *programmer* ('cuse me while
I
> > puke at the sheer blatant untruthfullness/unthankfullness of said
> > *programmer*)
> > - to remove this from sites generated from trial versions is robbing
> > YesSoftware of sales, and it this pirate attitude can destroy this very
> > promising but ack so small teams success, surely none of us want to kill
> the
> > goose that lays the golden eggs?
> >
> > Please reconsider the need to remove due credit from source, it does not
> > wear the wisher well.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > "Randy Bolser" <rbolser@attbi.com> wrote in message
> >news:b87202$gvr$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > > Quick Question... is the "Gererated with CodeCharge Studio" logo or
> > whatever
> > > you call it, displayed in the purchased version?
> > >
> > > If is is, guess I need to look for some new software!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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DonB
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| Posted: 05/28/2003, 1:28 PM |
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"Power by 'spiffyware'" is very common to see as a condition of use,
although mainly with GPL'ed software.
Howver, CCS does not require that and does not do that EXCEPT while in
evaluation mode. If you have a legitimate licensed copy then contact
support@codecharge.com. They will be very happy to help you sort out the
problem. Somewhere, the license must not have been properly applied.
I cannot say what happens to apps you build in eval mode, then license CCS.
It may not strip out the tagline (probably not, since I think it's just
text in the HTML and not a control or template block that CCS could parse
and delete). So you may have to take them out manually. Surely there are
not so many that you can't edit them out? Or do they keep coming back? If
so, I'll send you back to paragraph 1. Yes tech support is very good,
responsive and pleasant to work with so do hesitate to contact them.
DonB
"JCrowe" <jcrowe@home.net> wrote in message
news:bb2bfh$rik$1@news.codecharge.com...
> Having the product name in the code generally should not be problem and
> follows, what has been in the past, an acceptable practice. The problem
lays
> by having it flashed on everypage CCS generates without choice. That is
not
> standard practice. As far as YES Software is concerned it becomes "free
> advertising" somewhat similar to auto dealers placing their slogans on
your
> license plate holder...i.e Village Lincoln Mercury, Hometown USA,
> 555-555-1212. How many of those have you removed before ?
>
> Anyone who cares to look at the car can tell it is a Ford or Lincoln or
> Mercury...we dont need to be forced to advertise. A much better option
would
> be to offer the *Programmer* or the "reseller of services" the option to
> place a professionally designed logo in the corner of the page.
Personnally
> as a new comer to CCS learning to build ASP pages I would be proud to show
> off the tools...but dont force on me.
>
> Enjoy,
> JCrowe
>
> "Dave Rexel" <therex_spamenot@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:bam064$eus$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > > > > ah, but the source still contains Generator = 'CODECHARGE'
> > > > > which is a real pain....
> >
> >
> > Pain??? why???
> >
> > - the code-generator CC or CCS has generated the majority of the code,
not
> > the *programmer* who has used ->tweaked this innovative and unique tool.
> > - having used the code-generation of this visionary product the
> *programmer*
> > now chooses to hide this fact from the customer/site visitor, why? to
lie
> > that the code was entirely written by said *programmer* ('cuse me while
I
> > puke at the sheer blatant untruthfullness/unthankfullness of said
> > *programmer*)
> > - to remove this from sites generated from trial versions is robbing
> > YesSoftware of sales, and it this pirate attitude can destroy this very
> > promising but ack so small teams success, surely none of us want to kill
> the
> > goose that lays the golden eggs?
> >
> > Please reconsider the need to remove due credit from source, it does not
> > wear the wisher well.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > "Randy Bolser" <rbolser@attbi.com> wrote in message
> >news:b87202$gvr$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > > Quick Question... is the "Gererated with CodeCharge Studio" logo or
> > whatever
> > > you call it, displayed in the purchased version?
> > >
> > > If is is, guess I need to look for some new software!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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JCrowe
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| Posted: 05/29/2003, 10:34 AM |
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Your comments are just. However the topic is not "Is CCS a Good Product" I
think we all agree that it is. It is the "Generated By" message. The
original question posed before this thread got sliced and diced was "Does
CCS produce the 'Generated By' message on the PURCHASED copy not the eval
copy. I believe a visit to your domain michaelweaver.org will clear up any
confusion.
Enjoy,
JCrowe
"michael weaver" <zero@michaelweaver.org> wrote in message
news:bb2rav$ujd$1@news.codecharge.com...
> I don't understand. You've purchased CCS and are still receiving this
> message? I started using CodeCharge since the very early days, and I'm now
> using CCS2, and I haven't had any "Generated By" messages since I first
> downloaded the trial. You have purchased a copy, correct?
>
> If you have purchased a copy then there is obviously a problem because it
> shouldn't show up. You might need to uninstall, download the newest
version
> and reinstall. That should fix any problems you are receiving.
>
> If you haven't purchased a copy, and if you are indeed using the trial
then
> you need to commit or look elsewhere. I don't believe that Yes Software
> believes it is free advertising. I think it is a deterrant to using the
> trial software for production. It is a $500 piece of software that they
> allow trial users to use without any limitations except for a time limit
and
> a tiny line that says "Generated by CCS" or whatever. They could do what
> other software companies do, and not allow projects to be saved, or not
> allow publishing the pages at all. Those are also considered acceptable
> practices by some. This is the best possible solution for Yes Software,
and
> it is totally understandable to me.
>
> The price of CCS pays for itself many times over in one project alone, and
> in my opinion should be much higher. Not a popular view, I know, but you
get
> such a great ROI for it that it's almost obscene. Think about it - one
> dynamic website can call for a price between $1k and $20k or more, easily.
> That's one project. CCS, with its limitations and bugs and all, cuts down
on
> development time dramatically. That saves (and makes) the development team
> money by allowing them to work on more projects, and heck, it can even
save
> your clients money in reduced development time. It also opens you up to
> more projects and allows you to upsell to your current clients if you
aren't
> already offering dynamic modules for your sites.
>
> I don't use CCS for everything, but it's the right tool for the job many
> times. If you haven't purchased it, I say take the plunge. There's now
> decent documentation, a helpful community here and at www.codechargers.com
.
>
> michael
>
>
> "JCrowe" <jcrowe@home.net> wrote in message
>news:bb2bfh$rik$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > Having the product name in the code generally should not be problem and
> > follows, what has been in the past, an acceptable practice. The problem
> lays
> > by having it flashed on everypage CCS generates without choice. That is
> not
> > standard practice. As far as YES Software is concerned it becomes "free
> > advertising" somewhat similar to auto dealers placing their slogans on
> your
> > license plate holder...i.e Village Lincoln Mercury, Hometown USA,
> > 555-555-1212. How many of those have you removed before ?
> >
> > Anyone who cares to look at the car can tell it is a Ford or Lincoln or
> > Mercury...we dont need to be forced to advertise. A much better option
> would
> > be to offer the *Programmer* or the "reseller of services" the option
to
> > place a professionally designed logo in the corner of the page.
> Personnally
> > as a new comer to CCS learning to build ASP pages I would be proud to
show
> > off the tools...but dont force on me.
> >
> > Enjoy,
> > JCrowe
> >
> > "Dave Rexel" <therex_spamenot@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:bam064$eus$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > > > > > ah, but the source still contains Generator = 'CODECHARGE'
> > > > > > which is a real pain....
> > >
> > >
> > > Pain??? why???
> > >
> > > - the code-generator CC or CCS has generated the majority of the code,
> not
> > > the *programmer* who has used ->tweaked this innovative and unique
tool.
> > > - having used the code-generation of this visionary product the
> > *programmer*
> > > now chooses to hide this fact from the customer/site visitor, why? to
> lie
> > > that the code was entirely written by said *programmer* ('cuse me
while
> I
> > > puke at the sheer blatant untruthfullness/unthankfullness of said
> > > *programmer*)
> > > - to remove this from sites generated from trial versions is robbing
> > > YesSoftware of sales, and it this pirate attitude can destroy this
very
> > > promising but ack so small teams success, surely none of us want to
kill
> > the
> > > goose that lays the golden eggs?
> > >
> > > Please reconsider the need to remove due credit from source, it does
not
> > > wear the wisher well.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> > > "Randy Bolser" <rbolser@attbi.com> wrote in message
> > >news:b87202$gvr$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > > > Quick Question... is the "Gererated with CodeCharge Studio" logo or
> > > whatever
> > > > you call it, displayed in the purchased version?
> > > >
> > > > If is is, guess I need to look for some new software!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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michael weaver
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| Posted: 05/29/2003, 2:07 PM |
|
Yes, I'm a dork. Thanks. 
The original messages do not seem to be on the news server anymore, so I had
no real frame of reference. I thought you were trying to get around paying
for CCS, which only hurts Yes Software and future updates to CCS.
Sorry I got off on a rant, but I think it's a great piece of software.
michael
"JCrowe" <jcrowe@home.net> wrote in message
news:bb5gar$nfs$1@news.codecharge.com...
> Your comments are just. However the topic is not "Is CCS a Good Product" I
> think we all agree that it is. It is the "Generated By" message. The
> original question posed before this thread got sliced and diced was "Does
> CCS produce the 'Generated By' message on the PURCHASED copy not the eval
> copy. I believe a visit to your domain michaelweaver.org will clear up any
> confusion.
>
> Enjoy,
> JCrowe
>
>
> "michael weaver" <zero@michaelweaver.org> wrote in message
>news:bb2rav$ujd$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > I don't understand. You've purchased CCS and are still receiving this
> > message? I started using CodeCharge since the very early days, and I'm
now
> > using CCS2, and I haven't had any "Generated By" messages since I first
> > downloaded the trial. You have purchased a copy, correct?
> >
> > If you have purchased a copy then there is obviously a problem because
it
> > shouldn't show up. You might need to uninstall, download the newest
> version
> > and reinstall. That should fix any problems you are receiving.
> >
> > If you haven't purchased a copy, and if you are indeed using the trial
> then
> > you need to commit or look elsewhere. I don't believe that Yes Software
> > believes it is free advertising. I think it is a deterrant to using the
> > trial software for production. It is a $500 piece of software that they
> > allow trial users to use without any limitations except for a time limit
> and
> > a tiny line that says "Generated by CCS" or whatever. They could do what
> > other software companies do, and not allow projects to be saved, or not
> > allow publishing the pages at all. Those are also considered acceptable
> > practices by some. This is the best possible solution for Yes Software,
> and
> > it is totally understandable to me.
> >
> > The price of CCS pays for itself many times over in one project alone,
and
> > in my opinion should be much higher. Not a popular view, I know, but you
> get
> > such a great ROI for it that it's almost obscene. Think about it - one
> > dynamic website can call for a price between $1k and $20k or more,
easily.
> > That's one project. CCS, with its limitations and bugs and all, cuts
down
> on
> > development time dramatically. That saves (and makes) the development
team
> > money by allowing them to work on more projects, and heck, it can even
> save
> > your clients money in reduced development time. It also opens you up to
> > more projects and allows you to upsell to your current clients if you
> aren't
> > already offering dynamic modules for your sites.
> >
> > I don't use CCS for everything, but it's the right tool for the job many
> > times. If you haven't purchased it, I say take the plunge. There's now
> > decent documentation, a helpful community here and at
www.codechargers.com
> .
> >
> > michael
> >
> >
> > "JCrowe" <jcrowe@home.net> wrote in message
> >news:bb2bfh$rik$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > > Having the product name in the code generally should not be problem
and
> > > follows, what has been in the past, an acceptable practice. The
problem
> > lays
> > > by having it flashed on everypage CCS generates without choice. That
is
> > not
> > > standard practice. As far as YES Software is concerned it becomes
"free
> > > advertising" somewhat similar to auto dealers placing their slogans on
> > your
> > > license plate holder...i.e Village Lincoln Mercury, Hometown USA,
> > > 555-555-1212. How many of those have you removed before ?
> > >
> > > Anyone who cares to look at the car can tell it is a Ford or Lincoln
or
> > > Mercury...we dont need to be forced to advertise. A much better option
> > would
> > > be to offer the *Programmer* or the "reseller of services" the option
> to
> > > place a professionally designed logo in the corner of the page.
> > Personnally
> > > as a new comer to CCS learning to build ASP pages I would be proud to
> show
> > > off the tools...but dont force on me.
> > >
> > > Enjoy,
> > > JCrowe
> > >
> > > "Dave Rexel" <therex_spamenot@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > >news:bam064$eus$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > > > > > > ah, but the source still contains Generator = 'CODECHARGE'
> > > > > > > which is a real pain....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Pain??? why???
> > > >
> > > > - the code-generator CC or CCS has generated the majority of the
code,
> > not
> > > > the *programmer* who has used ->tweaked this innovative and unique
> tool.
> > > > - having used the code-generation of this visionary product the
> > > *programmer*
> > > > now chooses to hide this fact from the customer/site visitor, why?
to
> > lie
> > > > that the code was entirely written by said *programmer* ('cuse me
> while
> > I
> > > > puke at the sheer blatant untruthfullness/unthankfullness of said
> > > > *programmer*)
> > > > - to remove this from sites generated from trial versions is robbing
> > > > YesSoftware of sales, and it this pirate attitude can destroy this
> very
> > > > promising but ack so small teams success, surely none of us want to
> kill
> > > the
> > > > goose that lays the golden eggs?
> > > >
> > > > Please reconsider the need to remove due credit from source, it does
> not
> > > > wear the wisher well.
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Randy Bolser" <rbolser@attbi.com> wrote in message
> > > >news:b87202$gvr$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > > > > Quick Question... is the "Gererated with CodeCharge Studio" logo
or
> > > > whatever
> > > > > you call it, displayed in the purchased version?
> > > > >
> > > > > If is is, guess I need to look for some new software!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Agreed. Not paying for software hurts everyone and this software is
excellent in my inexperienced opinion. It has given me the abiltity to
produce pages that last month I thought was way beyond the reach of my
simple skill set.
Good Luck with your projects :)
JCrowe
"michael weaver" <zero@michaelweaver.org> wrote in message
news:bb5sqj$6tn$1@news.codecharge.com...
> Yes, I'm a dork. Thanks.
>
> The original messages do not seem to be on the news server anymore, so I
had
> no real frame of reference. I thought you were trying to get around
paying
> for CCS, which only hurts Yes Software and future updates to CCS.
>
> Sorry I got off on a rant, but I think it's a great piece of software.
>
> michael
>
>
> "JCrowe" <jcrowe@home.net> wrote in message
>news:bb5gar$nfs$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > Your comments are just. However the topic is not "Is CCS a Good Product"
I
> > think we all agree that it is. It is the "Generated By" message. The
> > original question posed before this thread got sliced and diced was
"Does
> > CCS produce the 'Generated By' message on the PURCHASED copy not the
eval
> > copy. I believe a visit to your domain michaelweaver.org will clear up
any
> > confusion.
> >
> > Enjoy,
> > JCrowe
> >
> >
> > "michael weaver" <zero@michaelweaver.org> wrote in message
> >news:bb2rav$ujd$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > > I don't understand. You've purchased CCS and are still receiving this
> > > message? I started using CodeCharge since the very early days, and I'm
> now
> > > using CCS2, and I haven't had any "Generated By" messages since I
first
> > > downloaded the trial. You have purchased a copy, correct?
> > >
> > > If you have purchased a copy then there is obviously a problem because
> it
> > > shouldn't show up. You might need to uninstall, download the newest
> > version
> > > and reinstall. That should fix any problems you are receiving.
> > >
> > > If you haven't purchased a copy, and if you are indeed using the trial
> > then
> > > you need to commit or look elsewhere. I don't believe that Yes
Software
> > > believes it is free advertising. I think it is a deterrant to using
the
> > > trial software for production. It is a $500 piece of software that
they
> > > allow trial users to use without any limitations except for a time
limit
> > and
> > > a tiny line that says "Generated by CCS" or whatever. They could do
what
> > > other software companies do, and not allow projects to be saved, or
not
> > > allow publishing the pages at all. Those are also considered
acceptable
> > > practices by some. This is the best possible solution for Yes
Software,
> > and
> > > it is totally understandable to me.
> > >
> > > The price of CCS pays for itself many times over in one project alone,
> and
> > > in my opinion should be much higher. Not a popular view, I know, but
you
> > get
> > > such a great ROI for it that it's almost obscene. Think about it - one
> > > dynamic website can call for a price between $1k and $20k or more,
> easily.
> > > That's one project. CCS, with its limitations and bugs and all, cuts
> down
> > on
> > > development time dramatically. That saves (and makes) the development
> team
> > > money by allowing them to work on more projects, and heck, it can even
> > save
> > > your clients money in reduced development time. It also opens you up
to
> > > more projects and allows you to upsell to your current clients if you
> > aren't
> > > already offering dynamic modules for your sites.
> > >
> > > I don't use CCS for everything, but it's the right tool for the job
many
> > > times. If you haven't purchased it, I say take the plunge. There's now
> > > decent documentation, a helpful community here and at
> www.codechargers.com
> > .
> > >
> > > michael
> > >
> > >
> > > "JCrowe" <jcrowe@home.net> wrote in message
> > >news:bb2bfh$rik$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > > > Having the product name in the code generally should not be problem
> and
> > > > follows, what has been in the past, an acceptable practice. The
> problem
> > > lays
> > > > by having it flashed on everypage CCS generates without choice. That
> is
> > > not
> > > > standard practice. As far as YES Software is concerned it becomes
> "free
> > > > advertising" somewhat similar to auto dealers placing their slogans
on
> > > your
> > > > license plate holder...i.e Village Lincoln Mercury, Hometown USA,
> > > > 555-555-1212. How many of those have you removed before ?
> > > >
> > > > Anyone who cares to look at the car can tell it is a Ford or Lincoln
> or
> > > > Mercury...we dont need to be forced to advertise. A much better
option
> > > would
> > > > be to offer the *Programmer* or the "reseller of services" the
option
> > to
> > > > place a professionally designed logo in the corner of the page.
> > > Personnally
> > > > as a new comer to CCS learning to build ASP pages I would be proud
to
> > show
> > > > off the tools...but dont force on me.
> > > >
> > > > Enjoy,
> > > > JCrowe
> > > >
> > > > "Dave Rexel" <therex_spamenot@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > >news:bam064$eus$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > > > > > > > ah, but the source still contains Generator = 'CODECHARGE'
> > > > > > > > which is a real pain....
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Pain??? why???
> > > > >
> > > > > - the code-generator CC or CCS has generated the majority of the
> code,
> > > not
> > > > > the *programmer* who has used ->tweaked this innovative and unique
> > tool.
> > > > > - having used the code-generation of this visionary product the
> > > > *programmer*
> > > > > now chooses to hide this fact from the customer/site visitor, why?
> to
> > > lie
> > > > > that the code was entirely written by said *programmer* ('cuse me
> > while
> > > I
> > > > > puke at the sheer blatant untruthfullness/unthankfullness of said
> > > > > *programmer*)
> > > > > - to remove this from sites generated from trial versions is
robbing
> > > > > YesSoftware of sales, and it this pirate attitude can destroy this
> > very
> > > > > promising but ack so small teams success, surely none of us want
to
> > kill
> > > > the
> > > > > goose that lays the golden eggs?
> > > > >
> > > > > Please reconsider the need to remove due credit from source, it
does
> > not
> > > > > wear the wisher well.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Randy Bolser" <rbolser@attbi.com> wrote in message
> > > > >news:b87202$gvr$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > > > > > Quick Question... is the "Gererated with CodeCharge Studio" logo
> or
> > > > > whatever
> > > > > > you call it, displayed in the purchased version?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If is is, guess I need to look for some new software!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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