CHM, JR.
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| Posted: 05/20/2003, 6:29 AM |
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I have, what I hope, is a simple question. After reading the manuals, and
perhaps I have missed it, is it possible to create contact/alumni site with
all the functionality of adding, searching, updating, etc. without having to
use a database; is, can is there a way to create a .dat file (or any other
format) instead where all member/user related information is stored?
The reason for the question. I design my sites in Frontpage (and yes, I
heard the groans all the way here) and have just purchased CCS. In reading
the manuals, each example refers to the use of database (Access, MySQL,
etc.) and the server that I working on has no database support of any kind
(not my choice, but I would be loathe to take it upon myself to insist to
this person that they switch hosting companies).
Any suggestions, comments would be greatly appreciated.
Respectfully,
CHM
chmjr@secondreign.us
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charisse
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| Posted: 05/20/2003, 11:16 AM |
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By definition CCS is "tool for the Web, capable of converting any
database into a web application within minutes"
Quote from CodeCharge home page.
Without one of the databases supported by CCS - you can't do what
you are asking.
If you don't have a hosting account with data base support, I
fear you just wasted your money.
Sorry
"CHM, JR." <chas.m@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:badajb$ecf$1@news.codecharge.com...
> I have, what I hope, is a simple question. After reading the
manuals, and
> perhaps I have missed it, is it possible to create
contact/alumni site with
> all the functionality of adding, searching, updating, etc.
without having to
> use a database; is, can is there a way to create a .dat file
(or any other
> format) instead where all member/user related information is
stored?
>
> The reason for the question. I design my sites in Frontpage
(and yes, I
> heard the groans all the way here) and have just purchased CCS.
In reading
> the manuals, each example refers to the use of database
(Access, MySQL,
> etc.) and the server that I working on has no database support
of any kind
> (not my choice, but I would be loathe to take it upon myself to
insist to
> this person that they switch hosting companies).
>
> Any suggestions, comments would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Respectfully,
> CHM
>chmjr@secondreign.us
>
>
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DonB
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| Posted: 05/20/2003, 2:12 PM |
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It would be possible to make a really simple database with XML files or even
text files. Not that I recommend this, because it would increase the effort
(more coding) and decreases the performance. This is not the sort of thing
that CCS is targetting.
Now, to the hosting issue. How much does the current host charge? I
personally use 1planhost.com (and they operate several "divisions" (one
being readyhosting.com). They offer a really good package ("1" plan and
that's all). It is $99/year (yes, per year). You get database support and
both ASP and PHP sript engines. Access databases are free and SQL Server is
an additional $35 per year per database.
I doubt the current host is this inexpensive, so you would do well to
suggest a change. (A) you get to write a simpler (i.e., "less development
$$$") and more efficient (no compromising on the database features and
performance) app and (B) you save money on maintaining the site.
Put another way, 5 years of this hosting solution is the cost of one CCS
license. You'll be better off finding a host that serves your needs rather
than trying to find a development tool that fits your current providers
limits.
[obligatory "I have no affiliation with the aforementioned hosting companies
other than being a very satisfied customer" disclaimer]
DonB
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http://www.gotodon.com
"CHM, JR." <chas.m@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:badajb$ecf$1@news.codecharge.com...
> I have, what I hope, is a simple question. After reading the manuals, and
> perhaps I have missed it, is it possible to create contact/alumni site
with
> all the functionality of adding, searching, updating, etc. without having
to
> use a database; is, can is there a way to create a .dat file (or any other
> format) instead where all member/user related information is stored?
>
> The reason for the question. I design my sites in Frontpage (and yes, I
> heard the groans all the way here) and have just purchased CCS. In
reading
> the manuals, each example refers to the use of database (Access, MySQL,
> etc.) and the server that I working on has no database support of any kind
> (not my choice, but I would be loathe to take it upon myself to insist to
> this person that they switch hosting companies).
>
> Any suggestions, comments would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Respectfully,
> CHM
>chmjr@secondreign.us
>
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Robert Rodgers
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| Posted: 05/20/2003, 4:35 PM |
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Hi All,
I use readyhosting for a couple of sites and think it is "ok" I have some
other sites hosted here
http://www.ntidesign.com/
and they seem a little faster and a bit more reliable. I get less
complaints from the nti sites than from the readyhosting. I don't know if
this could be because the customers on nti are just not as active or what
the difference is.
Just a second opinion to muddy the waters<G>
rob
--
"Every absurdity has a champion to defend it"
Oliver Goldsmith
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"DonB" <7432D63DBB01D03A196B1EDD80E8@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:bae5n9$bab$1@news.codecharge.com...
It would be possible to make a really simple database with XML files or even
text files. Not that I recommend this, because it would increase the effort
(more coding) and decreases the performance. This is not the sort of thing
that CCS is targetting.
Now, to the hosting issue. How much does the current host charge? I
personally use 1planhost.com (and they operate several "divisions" (one
being readyhosting.com). They offer a really good package ("1" plan and
that's all). It is $99/year (yes, per year). You get database support and
both ASP and PHP sript engines. Access databases are free and SQL Server is
an additional $35 per year per database.
I doubt the current host is this inexpensive, so you would do well to
suggest a change. (A) you get to write a simpler (i.e., "less development
$$$") and more efficient (no compromising on the database features and
performance) app and (B) you save money on maintaining the site.
Put another way, 5 years of this hosting solution is the cost of one CCS
license. You'll be better off finding a host that serves your needs rather
than trying to find a development tool that fits your current providers
limits.
[obligatory "I have no affiliation with the aforementioned hosting companies
other than being a very satisfied customer" disclaimer]
DonB
--
http://www.gotodon.com
"CHM, JR." <chas.m@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:badajb$ecf$1@news.codecharge.com...
> I have, what I hope, is a simple question. After reading the manuals, and
> perhaps I have missed it, is it possible to create contact/alumni site
with
> all the functionality of adding, searching, updating, etc. without having
to
> use a database; is, can is there a way to create a .dat file (or any other
> format) instead where all member/user related information is stored?
>
> The reason for the question. I design my sites in Frontpage (and yes, I
> heard the groans all the way here) and have just purchased CCS. In
reading
> the manuals, each example refers to the use of database (Access, MySQL,
> etc.) and the server that I working on has no database support of any kind
> (not my choice, but I would be loathe to take it upon myself to insist to
> this person that they switch hosting companies).
>
> Any suggestions, comments would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Respectfully,
> CHM
>chmjr@secondreign.us
>
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CHM, JR.
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| Posted: 05/20/2003, 7:23 PM |
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You know, somehow I knew that, but I was hoping that I could somehow create
a .dat file to circumvent the process since his host has no database
support. Knowing the facts, I was still hoping that maybe someone knew a
"trick". But I thank you for confirming this for me.
CHM
"charisse" <charissen@epop3nospam.com> wrote in message
news:badrdk$k5j$1@news.codecharge.com...
> By definition CCS is "tool for the Web, capable of converting any
> database into a web application within minutes"
> Quote from CodeCharge home page.
>
> Without one of the databases supported by CCS - you can't do what
> you are asking.
>
> If you don't have a hosting account with data base support, I
> fear you just wasted your money.
>
> Sorry
> "CHM, JR." <chas.m@lycos.com> wrote in message
>news:badajb$ecf$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > I have, what I hope, is a simple question. After reading the
> manuals, and
> > perhaps I have missed it, is it possible to create
> contact/alumni site with
> > all the functionality of adding, searching, updating, etc.
> without having to
> > use a database; is, can is there a way to create a .dat file
> (or any other
> > format) instead where all member/user related information is
> stored?
> >
> > The reason for the question. I design my sites in Frontpage
> (and yes, I
> > heard the groans all the way here) and have just purchased CCS.
> In reading
> > the manuals, each example refers to the use of database
> (Access, MySQL,
> > etc.) and the server that I working on has no database support
> of any kind
> > (not my choice, but I would be loathe to take it upon myself to
> insist to
> > this person that they switch hosting companies).
> >
> > Any suggestions, comments would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Respectfully,
> > CHM
> >chmjr@secondreign.us
> >
> >
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> > opening emails from unknown sources/persons or when entering
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> > locations.
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> >
> >
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CHM, JR.
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| Posted: 05/20/2003, 7:28 PM |
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I thought about several different ways of approaching this and more coding
was not one of the favored choices.
I will use this post, Don, to further stress to my client to need to move
onto a server that can accommodate his needs. I thank you for the input and
for the honesty (this is one the best newsgroup discussions that I have ever
"stumbled" upon) as I have checked into 1planhost this afternoon.
I thank you!
CHM
"DonB" <7432D63DBB01D03A196B1EDD80E8@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:bae5n9$bab$1@news.codecharge.com...
> It would be possible to make a really simple database with XML files or
even
> text files. Not that I recommend this, because it would increase the
effort
> (more coding) and decreases the performance. This is not the sort of
thing
> that CCS is targetting.
>
> Now, to the hosting issue. How much does the current host charge? I
> personally use 1planhost.com (and they operate several "divisions" (one
> being readyhosting.com). They offer a really good package ("1" plan and
> that's all). It is $99/year (yes, per year). You get database support
and
> both ASP and PHP sript engines. Access databases are free and SQL Server
is
> an additional $35 per year per database.
>
> I doubt the current host is this inexpensive, so you would do well to
> suggest a change. (A) you get to write a simpler (i.e., "less development
> $$$") and more efficient (no compromising on the database features and
> performance) app and (B) you save money on maintaining the site.
>
> Put another way, 5 years of this hosting solution is the cost of one CCS
> license. You'll be better off finding a host that serves your needs
rather
> than trying to find a development tool that fits your current providers
> limits.
>
> [obligatory "I have no affiliation with the aforementioned hosting
companies
> other than being a very satisfied customer" disclaimer]
>
> DonB
> --
> http://www.gotodon.com
>
>
> "CHM, JR." <chas.m@lycos.com> wrote in message
>news:badajb$ecf$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > I have, what I hope, is a simple question. After reading the manuals,
and
> > perhaps I have missed it, is it possible to create contact/alumni site
> with
> > all the functionality of adding, searching, updating, etc. without
having
> to
> > use a database; is, can is there a way to create a .dat file (or any
other
> > format) instead where all member/user related information is stored?
> >
> > The reason for the question. I design my sites in Frontpage (and yes, I
> > heard the groans all the way here) and have just purchased CCS. In
> reading
> > the manuals, each example refers to the use of database (Access, MySQL,
> > etc.) and the server that I working on has no database support of any
kind
> > (not my choice, but I would be loathe to take it upon myself to insist
to
> > this person that they switch hosting companies).
> >
> > Any suggestions, comments would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Respectfully,
> > CHM
> >chmjr@secondreign.us
> >
>
>
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CHM, JR.
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| Posted: 05/20/2003, 7:30 PM |
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Thanks for the info! Saves a lot of hunting and pecking!
Hey, for all you programmers, as least from this one l'il ol' designer, you
guys are awesome!
CHM
"Robert Rodgers" <rrodgers@sylvancomputing.com> wrote in message
news:baee4s$tm8$1@news.codecharge.com...
> Hi All,
>
> I use readyhosting for a couple of sites and think it is "ok" I have some
> other sites hosted here
>
> http://www.ntidesign.com/
>
> and they seem a little faster and a bit more reliable. I get less
> complaints from the nti sites than from the readyhosting. I don't know if
> this could be because the customers on nti are just not as active or what
> the difference is.
>
> Just a second opinion to muddy the waters<G>
>
> rob
>
> --
> "Every absurdity has a champion to defend it"
> Oliver Goldsmith
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> "DonB" <7432D63DBB01D03A196B1EDD80E8@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:bae5n9$bab$1@news.codecharge.com...
> It would be possible to make a really simple database with XML files or
even
> text files. Not that I recommend this, because it would increase the
effort
> (more coding) and decreases the performance. This is not the sort of
thing
> that CCS is targetting.
>
> Now, to the hosting issue. How much does the current host charge? I
> personally use 1planhost.com (and they operate several "divisions" (one
> being readyhosting.com). They offer a really good package ("1" plan and
> that's all). It is $99/year (yes, per year). You get database support
and
> both ASP and PHP sript engines. Access databases are free and SQL Server
is
> an additional $35 per year per database.
>
> I doubt the current host is this inexpensive, so you would do well to
> suggest a change. (A) you get to write a simpler (i.e., "less development
> $$$") and more efficient (no compromising on the database features and
> performance) app and (B) you save money on maintaining the site.
>
> Put another way, 5 years of this hosting solution is the cost of one CCS
> license. You'll be better off finding a host that serves your needs
rather
> than trying to find a development tool that fits your current providers
> limits.
>
> [obligatory "I have no affiliation with the aforementioned hosting
companies
> other than being a very satisfied customer" disclaimer]
>
> DonB
> --
> http://www.gotodon.com
>
>
> "CHM, JR." <chas.m@lycos.com> wrote in message
>news:badajb$ecf$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > I have, what I hope, is a simple question. After reading the manuals,
and
> > perhaps I have missed it, is it possible to create contact/alumni site
> with
> > all the functionality of adding, searching, updating, etc. without
having
> to
> > use a database; is, can is there a way to create a .dat file (or any
other
> > format) instead where all member/user related information is stored?
> >
> > The reason for the question. I design my sites in Frontpage (and yes, I
> > heard the groans all the way here) and have just purchased CCS. In
> reading
> > the manuals, each example refers to the use of database (Access, MySQL,
> > etc.) and the server that I working on has no database support of any
kind
> > (not my choice, but I would be loathe to take it upon myself to insist
to
> > this person that they switch hosting companies).
> >
> > Any suggestions, comments would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Respectfully,
> > CHM
> >chmjr@secondreign.us
> >
>
>
>
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