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Chris Moore
Posted: 07/04/2003, 9:55 AM

I am suddenly getting the following error in an application that was
working perfectly. This is in the Header.ASP code. What does this mean?

"Warning:Unable to find the beginning of block Button,Ln: 65, Col: 161."

Thanks

Chris
Chris Moore
Posted: 07/04/2003, 10:12 AM

Here is the error returned by the browser:

Error Type:
Microsoft VBScript runtime (0x800A01A8)
Object required: 'MainTpl'
/TxRealEstateDataBank/Header.asp, line 85



I don't have a clue what that means & why it is now showing up. Could I
deleted something on the main search page that would have caused this on
the Header page?

Any help please!!!!




Chris Moore <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in news:Xns93AE79C33CC6Acabubba@
66.180.229.147:

> I am suddenly getting the following error in an application that was
> working perfectly. This is in the Header.ASP code. What does this mean?
>
> "Warning:Unable to find the beginning of block Button,Ln: 65, Col:
161."
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris
>
>
Phil
Posted: 07/04/2003, 10:34 AM

Chris, I was getting the same message "Warning:Unable to find the beginning
of block Button,Ln: 65, Col: 161." after I moved a column using the IDE and
then generated the page (live page). I had gone into the html of the page,
and done some "tweaking". When I redid the page using a wizard, and left
the html alone, it went away.

You may want to read throught the thread from "phil" on 6/30 "moving columns
in design view" as Don B had serveral ideas and suggestions which he shared.

"Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93AE7CBA95C4Bcabubba@66.180.229.147...
> Here is the error returned by the browser:
>
> Error Type:
> Microsoft VBScript runtime (0x800A01A8)
> Object required: 'MainTpl'
> /TxRealEstateDataBank/Header.asp, line 85
>
>
>
> I don't have a clue what that means & why it is now showing up. Could I
> deleted something on the main search page that would have caused this on
> the Header page?
>
> Any help please!!!!
>
>
>
>
> Chris Moore <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in news:Xns93AE79C33CC6Acabubba@
> 66.180.229.147:
>
> > I am suddenly getting the following error in an application that was
> > working perfectly. This is in the Header.ASP code. What does this mean?
> >
> > "Warning:Unable to find the beginning of block Button,Ln: 65, Col:
> 161."
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
>

Chris Moore
Posted: 07/04/2003, 11:14 AM

I figured it out. I too had apperantly deleted from comments and that
screwed up my Search Button. CCS should NOT be relying on comments to
generate code and keep things aligned. That is not a good practice.

Thanks for the help. I probably will go back and read your thread so just
I have a better understanding of everything.

Thanks again.

Chris


"Phil" <padams@nascar.com> wrote in
news:be4drh$54d$1@news.codecharge.com:

> Chris, I was getting the same message "Warning:Unable to find the
> beginning of block Button,Ln: 65, Col: 161." after I moved a column
> using the IDE and then generated the page (live page). I had gone
> into the html of the page, and done some "tweaking". When I redid the
> page using a wizard, and left the html alone, it went away.
>
> You may want to read throught the thread from "phil" on 6/30 "moving
> columns in design view" as Don B had serveral ideas and suggestions
> which he shared.
>
> "Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
>news:Xns93AE7CBA95C4Bcabubba@66.180.229.147...
>> Here is the error returned by the browser:
>>
>> Error Type:
>> Microsoft VBScript runtime (0x800A01A8)
>> Object required: 'MainTpl'
>> /TxRealEstateDataBank/Header.asp, line 85
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't have a clue what that means & why it is now showing up. Could
>> I deleted something on the main search page that would have caused
>> this on the Header page?
>>
>> Any help please!!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Moore <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in
>> news:Xns93AE79C33CC6Acabubba@ 66.180.229.147:
>>
>> > I am suddenly getting the following error in an application that
>> > was working perfectly. This is in the Header.ASP code. What does
>> > this mean?
>> >
>> > "Warning:Unable to find the beginning of block Button,Ln: 65, Col:
>> 161."
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
Dave Rexel
Posted: 07/04/2003, 1:00 PM

Hi Chris

I hope you will soon (anytime you release a product capable of producing
webapps in ALL most needed dialects) see the need for some workarounds. In
CCS this is the comment label which is pressed into service as a parsed
template delineator. This is the secret ingredient in the CCS magic pie and
something that needs to be handled with care. (ie not something to be
lightly deleted or moved )

What universal component would you choose if you would release such an
application addressing ASP, PHP, JSP, CFM and more? if you needed a common
ground?

Sorry for the rather acidic comment but I do not feel your views on "That is
not good practice" to be founded on any sort of knowledge of the issues
involved. If you have prior konowledge and proficiency in writing universal
templated code generators I am very interested in your work.

My advice, read the documentation, get busy and deep with the app and you
will progress amazingly and will be productive as never before.

Dave


"Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93AE8748E9621cabubba@66.180.229.147...
> I figured it out. I too had apperantly deleted from comments and that
> screwed up my Search Button. CCS should NOT be relying on comments to
> generate code and keep things aligned. That is not a good practice.
>
> Thanks for the help. I probably will go back and read your thread so just
> I have a better understanding of everything.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Chris
>
>
> "Phil" <padams@nascar.com> wrote in
>news:be4drh$54d$1@news.codecharge.com:
>
> > Chris, I was getting the same message "Warning:Unable to find the
> > beginning of block Button,Ln: 65, Col: 161." after I moved a column
> > using the IDE and then generated the page (live page). I had gone
> > into the html of the page, and done some "tweaking". When I redid the
> > page using a wizard, and left the html alone, it went away.
> >
> > You may want to read throught the thread from "phil" on 6/30 "moving
> > columns in design view" as Don B had serveral ideas and suggestions
> > which he shared.
> >
> > "Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
> >news:Xns93AE7CBA95C4Bcabubba@66.180.229.147...
> >> Here is the error returned by the browser:
> >>
> >> Error Type:
> >> Microsoft VBScript runtime (0x800A01A8)
> >> Object required: 'MainTpl'
> >> /TxRealEstateDataBank/Header.asp, line 85
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I don't have a clue what that means & why it is now showing up. Could
> >> I deleted something on the main search page that would have caused
> >> this on the Header page?
> >>
> >> Any help please!!!!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Chris Moore <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in
> >> news:Xns93AE79C33CC6Acabubba@ 66.180.229.147:
> >>
> >> > I am suddenly getting the following error in an application that
> >> > was working perfectly. This is in the Header.ASP code. What does
> >> > this mean?
> >> >
> >> > "Warning:Unable to find the beginning of block Button,Ln: 65, Col:
> >> 161."
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > Chris
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>

Dave Rexel
Posted: 07/04/2003, 4:14 PM

Hello Chris

I'm such a grouch... don't know why the fingers' quicker than da *!brain*?
so the rant was more directed to the fact that these elements are not
*protected* by the CCS IDE, even though they are IDE generated.... sorry to
bore you and even sorrier to have ranted at you

Sincerely

Dave Rexel


"Dave Rexel" <therex_spamenot@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:be4mdm$fkv$1@news.codecharge.com...
> Hi Chris
>
> I hope you will soon (anytime you release a product capable of producing
> webapps in ALL most needed dialects) see the need for some workarounds. In
> CCS this is the comment label which is pressed into service as a parsed
> template delineator. This is the secret ingredient in the CCS magic pie
and
> something that needs to be handled with care. (ie not something to be
> lightly deleted or moved )
>
> What universal component would you choose if you would release such an
> application addressing ASP, PHP, JSP, CFM and more? if you needed a
common
> ground?
>
> Sorry for the rather acidic comment but I do not feel your views on "That
is
> not good practice" to be founded on any sort of knowledge of the issues
> involved. If you have prior konowledge and proficiency in writing
universal
> templated code generators I am very interested in your work.
>
> My advice, read the documentation, get busy and deep with the app and you
> will progress amazingly and will be productive as never before.
>
> Dave
>
>
> "Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
>news:Xns93AE8748E9621cabubba@66.180.229.147...
> > I figured it out. I too had apperantly deleted from comments and that
> > screwed up my Search Button. CCS should NOT be relying on comments to
> > generate code and keep things aligned. That is not a good practice.
> >
> > Thanks for the help. I probably will go back and read your thread so
just
> > I have a better understanding of everything.
> >
> > Thanks again.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > "Phil" <padams@nascar.com> wrote in
> >news:be4drh$54d$1@news.codecharge.com:
> >
> > > Chris, I was getting the same message "Warning:Unable to find the
> > > beginning of block Button,Ln: 65, Col: 161." after I moved a column
> > > using the IDE and then generated the page (live page). I had gone
> > > into the html of the page, and done some "tweaking". When I redid the
> > > page using a wizard, and left the html alone, it went away.
> > >
> > > You may want to read throught the thread from "phil" on 6/30 "moving
> > > columns in design view" as Don B had serveral ideas and suggestions
> > > which he shared.
> > >
> > > "Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
> > >news:Xns93AE7CBA95C4Bcabubba@66.180.229.147...
> > >> Here is the error returned by the browser:
> > >>
> > >> Error Type:
> > >> Microsoft VBScript runtime (0x800A01A8)
> > >> Object required: 'MainTpl'
> > >> /TxRealEstateDataBank/Header.asp, line 85
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I don't have a clue what that means & why it is now showing up. Could
> > >> I deleted something on the main search page that would have caused
> > >> this on the Header page?
> > >>
> > >> Any help please!!!!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Chris Moore <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in
> > >> news:Xns93AE79C33CC6Acabubba@ 66.180.229.147:
> > >>
> > >> > I am suddenly getting the following error in an application that
> > >> > was working perfectly. This is in the Header.ASP code. What does
> > >> > this mean?
> > >> >
> > >> > "Warning:Unable to find the beginning of block Button,Ln: 65, Col:
> > >> 161."
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks
> > >> >
> > >> > Chris
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

Chris Moore
Posted: 07/04/2003, 6:46 PM

My primary programming language is Clarion. Clarion is a template
driven language. As a matter of fact, If I didn't know better,
the creators of CCS appear to have been copied somewhat from
Clarion (which has been around for 10+ years). No problem there,
I like it. When editing Clarion code & displaying the template
code, their template code is 'locked' and can't be changed
(although I could create my own templates or edit theirs - but
why screw up a good thing). If CCS would just 'lock' their
template code down so it couldn't be changed (like the comments),
that would solve the issue. But I stand by my statment that for
an IDE that allows the programmer to edit everything, it (the
IDE) should NOT depend on comments to mark its code. If it is
going to allow the comments to be deleted, the editor should warn
you when it senses you deleteing this code (or after you delete
it should warn you & allow you to undo the delete).

I like CCS, I was just stating my opinion.

Have a good weekend.

Chris



"Dave Rexel" <therex_spamenot@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:be51od$sm6$1@news.codecharge.com:

> Hello Chris
>
> I'm such a grouch... don't know why the fingers' quicker than
da
> *!brain*? so the rant was more directed to the fact that these
> elements are not *protected* by the CCS IDE, even though they
are IDE
> generated.... sorry to bore you and even sorrier to have ranted
at you
>
> Sincerely
>
> Dave Rexel
>
>
> "Dave Rexel" <therex_spamenot@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:be4mdm$fkv$1@news.codecharge.com...
>> Hi Chris
>>
>> I hope you will soon (anytime you release a product capable of
>> producing webapps in ALL most needed dialects) see the need
for some
>> workarounds. In CCS this is the comment label which is pressed
into
>> service as a parsed template delineator. This is the secret
>> ingredient in the CCS magic pie
> and
>> something that needs to be handled with care. (ie not
something to be
>> lightly deleted or moved )
>>
>> What universal component would you choose if you would release
such
>> an application addressing ASP, PHP, JSP, CFM and more? if you
needed
>> a
> common
>> ground?
>>
>> Sorry for the rather acidic comment but I do not feel your
views on
>> "That
> is
>> not good practice" to be founded on any sort of knowledge of
the
>> issues involved. If you have prior konowledge and proficiency
in
>> writing
> universal
>> templated code generators I am very interested in your work.
>>
>> My advice, read the documentation, get busy and deep with the
app and
>> you will progress amazingly and will be productive as never
before.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> "Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
>>news:Xns93AE8748E9621cabubba@66.180.229.147...
>> > I figured it out. I too had apperantly deleted from comments
and
>> > that screwed up my Search Button. CCS should NOT be relying
on
>> > comments to generate code and keep things aligned. That is
not a
>> > good practice.
>> >
>> > Thanks for the help. I probably will go back and read your
thread
>> > so
> just
>> > I have a better understanding of everything.
>> >
>> > Thanks again.
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
>> >
>> > "Phil" <padams@nascar.com> wrote in
>> >news:be4drh$54d$1@news.codecharge.com:
>> >
>> > > Chris, I was getting the same message "Warning:Unable to
find the
>> > > beginning of block Button,Ln: 65, Col: 161." after I moved
a
>> > > column using the IDE and then generated the page (live
page). I
>> > > had gone into the html of the page, and done some
"tweaking".
>> > > When I redid the page using a wizard, and left the html
alone, it
>> > > went away.
>> > >
>> > > You may want to read throught the thread from "phil" on
6/30
>> > > "moving columns in design view" as Don B had serveral
ideas and
>> > > suggestions which he shared.
>> > >
>> > > "Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
>> > >news:Xns93AE7CBA95C4Bcabubba@66.180.229.147...
>> > >> Here is the error returned by the browser:
>> > >>
>> > >> Error Type:
>> > >> Microsoft VBScript runtime (0x800A01A8)
>> > >> Object required: 'MainTpl'
>> > >> /TxRealEstateDataBank/Header.asp, line 85
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> I don't have a clue what that means & why it is now
showing up.
>> > >> Could I deleted something on the main search page that
would
>> > >> have caused this on the Header page?
>> > >>
>> > >> Any help please!!!!
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Chris Moore <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in
>> > >> news:Xns93AE79C33CC6Acabubba@ 66.180.229.147:
>> > >>
>> > >> > I am suddenly getting the following error in an
application
>> > >> > that was working perfectly. This is in the Header.ASP
code.
>> > >> > What does this mean?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > "Warning:Unable to find the beginning of block
Button,Ln: 65,
>> > >> > Col:
>> > >> 161."
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Thanks
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Chris
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>
Chris Moore
Posted: 07/04/2003, 6:48 PM

I have 20+ years of programming experience so I do have a fairly
good grasp of what I am talking about. The CCS programmers need
to just put more thought into their editor (look at the Clarion
editor for an example).

Chris


"Dave Rexel" <therex_spamenot@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:be4mdm$fkv$1@news.codecharge.com:

> Hi Chris
>
> I hope you will soon (anytime you release a product capable of
> producing webapps in ALL most needed dialects) see the need for
some
> workarounds. In CCS this is the comment label which is pressed
into
> service as a parsed template delineator. This is the secret
ingredient
> in the CCS magic pie and something that needs to be handled
with care.
> (ie not something to be lightly deleted or moved )
>
> What universal component would you choose if you would release
such an
> application addressing ASP, PHP, JSP, CFM and more? if you
needed a
> common ground?
>
> Sorry for the rather acidic comment but I do not feel your
views on
> "That is not good practice" to be founded on any sort of
knowledge of
> the issues involved. If you have prior konowledge and
proficiency in
> writing universal templated code generators I am very
interested in
> your work.
>
> My advice, read the documentation, get busy and deep with the
app and
> you will progress amazingly and will be productive as never
before.
>
> Dave
>
>
> "Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
>news:Xns93AE8748E9621cabubba@66.180.229.147...
>> I figured it out. I too had apperantly deleted from comments
and that
>> screwed up my Search Button. CCS should NOT be relying on
comments to
>> generate code and keep things aligned. That is not a good
practice.
>>
>> Thanks for the help. I probably will go back and read your
thread so
>> just I have a better understanding of everything.
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> "Phil" <padams@nascar.com> wrote in
>>news:be4drh$54d$1@news.codecharge.com:
>>
>> > Chris, I was getting the same message "Warning:Unable to
find the
>> > beginning of block Button,Ln: 65, Col: 161." after I moved a
column
>> > using the IDE and then generated the page (live page). I
had gone
>> > into the html of the page, and done some "tweaking". When I
redid
>> > the page using a wizard, and left the html alone, it went
away.
>> >
>> > You may want to read throught the thread from "phil" on 6/30
>> > "moving columns in design view" as Don B had serveral ideas
and
>> > suggestions which he shared.
>> >
>> > "Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
>> >news:Xns93AE7CBA95C4Bcabubba@66.180.229.147...
>> >> Here is the error returned by the browser:
>> >>
>> >> Error Type:
>> >> Microsoft VBScript runtime (0x800A01A8)
>> >> Object required: 'MainTpl'
>> >> /TxRealEstateDataBank/Header.asp, line 85
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I don't have a clue what that means & why it is now showing
up.
>> >> Could I deleted something on the main search page that
would have
>> >> caused this on the Header page?
>> >>
>> >> Any help please!!!!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Chris Moore <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in
>> >> news:Xns93AE79C33CC6Acabubba@ 66.180.229.147:
>> >>
>> >> > I am suddenly getting the following error in an
application that
>> >> > was working perfectly. This is in the Header.ASP code.
What does
>> >> > this mean?
>> >> >
>> >> > "Warning:Unable to find the beginning of block Button,Ln:
65,
>> >> > Col:
>> >> 161."
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> >
>> >> > Chris
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
Dave Rexel
Posted: 07/04/2003, 11:56 PM

I agree, there have to be more checks so the page cannot be destroyed by
moving/deleting a comment or other component. This had me tearing my hair
when CCS was introduced.

Dave

"Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93AED3E9FA83Bdblayout@66.180.229.147...
> I have 20+ years of programming experience so I do have a fairly
> good grasp of what I am talking about. The CCS programmers need
> to just put more thought into their editor (look at the Clarion
> editor for an example).
>
> Chris
>
>
> "Dave Rexel" <therex_spamenot@hotmail.com> wrote in
>news:be4mdm$fkv$1@news.codecharge.com:
>
> > Hi Chris
> >
> > I hope you will soon (anytime you release a product capable of
> > producing webapps in ALL most needed dialects) see the need for
> some
> > workarounds. In CCS this is the comment label which is pressed
> into
> > service as a parsed template delineator. This is the secret
> ingredient
> > in the CCS magic pie and something that needs to be handled
> with care.
> > (ie not something to be lightly deleted or moved )
> >
> > What universal component would you choose if you would release
> such an
> > application addressing ASP, PHP, JSP, CFM and more? if you
> needed a
> > common ground?
> >
> > Sorry for the rather acidic comment but I do not feel your
> views on
> > "That is not good practice" to be founded on any sort of
> knowledge of
> > the issues involved. If you have prior konowledge and
> proficiency in
> > writing universal templated code generators I am very
> interested in
> > your work.
> >
> > My advice, read the documentation, get busy and deep with the
> app and
> > you will progress amazingly and will be productive as never
> before.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > "Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
> >news:Xns93AE8748E9621cabubba@66.180.229.147...
> >> I figured it out. I too had apperantly deleted from comments
> and that
> >> screwed up my Search Button. CCS should NOT be relying on
> comments to
> >> generate code and keep things aligned. That is not a good
> practice.
> >>
> >> Thanks for the help. I probably will go back and read your
> thread so
> >> just I have a better understanding of everything.
> >>
> >> Thanks again.
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >>
> >> "Phil" <padams@nascar.com> wrote in
> >>news:be4drh$54d$1@news.codecharge.com:
> >>
> >> > Chris, I was getting the same message "Warning:Unable to
> find the
> >> > beginning of block Button,Ln: 65, Col: 161." after I moved a
> column
> >> > using the IDE and then generated the page (live page). I
> had gone
> >> > into the html of the page, and done some "tweaking". When I
> redid
> >> > the page using a wizard, and left the html alone, it went
> away.
> >> >
> >> > You may want to read throught the thread from "phil" on 6/30
> >> > "moving columns in design view" as Don B had serveral ideas
> and
> >> > suggestions which he shared.
> >> >
> >> > "Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:Xns93AE7CBA95C4Bcabubba@66.180.229.147...
> >> >> Here is the error returned by the browser:
> >> >>
> >> >> Error Type:
> >> >> Microsoft VBScript runtime (0x800A01A8)
> >> >> Object required: 'MainTpl'
> >> >> /TxRealEstateDataBank/Header.asp, line 85
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't have a clue what that means & why it is now showing
> up.
> >> >> Could I deleted something on the main search page that
> would have
> >> >> caused this on the Header page?
> >> >>
> >> >> Any help please!!!!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Chris Moore <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in
> >> >> news:Xns93AE79C33CC6Acabubba@ 66.180.229.147:
> >> >>
> >> >> > I am suddenly getting the following error in an
> application that
> >> >> > was working perfectly. This is in the Header.ASP code.
> What does
> >> >> > this mean?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Warning:Unable to find the beginning of block Button,Ln:
> 65,
> >> >> > Col:
> >> >> 161."
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Chris
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>

Ziggetty
Posted: 07/07/2003, 6:38 AM

interesting this thread. yep, sounds familiar. pulling hair ....

with 20+ experience on my site i also stumbled in this kind of @#$% and
started over on a page or reverted to my yesterday backup.


Hopefully it will improve... and will YES listen ......


AND I WANT AN API!!!!!
DonB
Posted: 07/07/2003, 5:56 PM

I have to agree with that. I hope they are seriously working in this area.
There are things I know they are relly hung up on, like the way things
"unselect" themselves when you jump between the Design and Property panels,
when you cna a control's name, etc.

It takes a good IDE, as well as good output from it, to be successful in the
market. I think they are wise enough to gather good ideas from WebMatrix,
Clarion and so on. I hope they are putting the approriate resources into
V3.0 and not just supporting V2.0. I am also concerned there does not seem
to be a lot of "buzz" about CCS. There is a steady stream of favorable
press, but no avalanche so far. Of course, we can probably do more in that
area than any trade publication, by showcasing CCS in the real world - like
(I hope) I am doing at my site. Not a lot of hits so far, though :-( Can't
seem to attract the spider-bots either.

DonB

http://www.gotodon.com


"Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93AED3E9FA83Bdblayout@66.180.229.147...
> I have 20+ years of programming experience so I do have a fairly
> good grasp of what I am talking about. The CCS programmers need
> to just put more thought into their editor (look at the Clarion
> editor for an example).
>
> Chris
>
>
> "Dave Rexel" <therex_spamenot@hotmail.com> wrote in
>news:be4mdm$fkv$1@news.codecharge.com:
>
> > Hi Chris
> >
> > I hope you will soon (anytime you release a product capable of
> > producing webapps in ALL most needed dialects) see the need for
> some
> > workarounds. In CCS this is the comment label which is pressed
> into
> > service as a parsed template delineator. This is the secret
> ingredient
> > in the CCS magic pie and something that needs to be handled
> with care.
> > (ie not something to be lightly deleted or moved )
> >
> > What universal component would you choose if you would release
> such an
> > application addressing ASP, PHP, JSP, CFM and more? if you
> needed a
> > common ground?
> >
> > Sorry for the rather acidic comment but I do not feel your
> views on
> > "That is not good practice" to be founded on any sort of
> knowledge of
> > the issues involved. If you have prior konowledge and
> proficiency in
> > writing universal templated code generators I am very
> interested in
> > your work.
> >
> > My advice, read the documentation, get busy and deep with the
> app and
> > you will progress amazingly and will be productive as never
> before.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > "Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
> >news:Xns93AE8748E9621cabubba@66.180.229.147...
> >> I figured it out. I too had apperantly deleted from comments
> and that
> >> screwed up my Search Button. CCS should NOT be relying on
> comments to
> >> generate code and keep things aligned. That is not a good
> practice.
> >>
> >> Thanks for the help. I probably will go back and read your
> thread so
> >> just I have a better understanding of everything.
> >>
> >> Thanks again.
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >>
> >> "Phil" <padams@nascar.com> wrote in
> >>news:be4drh$54d$1@news.codecharge.com:
> >>
> >> > Chris, I was getting the same message "Warning:Unable to
> find the
> >> > beginning of block Button,Ln: 65, Col: 161." after I moved a
> column
> >> > using the IDE and then generated the page (live page). I
> had gone
> >> > into the html of the page, and done some "tweaking". When I
> redid
> >> > the page using a wizard, and left the html alone, it went
> away.
> >> >
> >> > You may want to read throught the thread from "phil" on 6/30
> >> > "moving columns in design view" as Don B had serveral ideas
> and
> >> > suggestions which he shared.
> >> >
> >> > "Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:Xns93AE7CBA95C4Bcabubba@66.180.229.147...
> >> >> Here is the error returned by the browser:
> >> >>
> >> >> Error Type:
> >> >> Microsoft VBScript runtime (0x800A01A8)
> >> >> Object required: 'MainTpl'
> >> >> /TxRealEstateDataBank/Header.asp, line 85
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't have a clue what that means & why it is now showing
> up.
> >> >> Could I deleted something on the main search page that
> would have
> >> >> caused this on the Header page?
> >> >>
> >> >> Any help please!!!!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Chris Moore <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in
> >> >> news:Xns93AE79C33CC6Acabubba@ 66.180.229.147:
> >> >>
> >> >> > I am suddenly getting the following error in an
> application that
> >> >> > was working perfectly. This is in the Header.ASP code.
> What does
> >> >> > this mean?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Warning:Unable to find the beginning of block Button,Ln:
> 65,
> >> >> > Col:
> >> >> 161."
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Chris
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>

Chris Moore
Posted: 07/07/2003, 6:47 PM

Your comments sound just like those in the Clarion forums when
you talk about not very much buzz. CLarion has a very loyal user
base but never gets much publicity or press. It sounds like
Clarion & CodeCharge could be brothers.

Chris



"DonB" <7432D63DBB01D03A196B1EDD80E8@comcast.net> wrote in
news:bed4rv$q3f$1@news.codecharge.com:

> I have to agree with that. I hope they are seriously working
in this
> area. There are things I know they are relly hung up on, like
the way
> things "unselect" themselves when you jump between the Design
and
> Property panels, when you cna a control's name, etc.
>
> It takes a good IDE, as well as good output from it, to be
successful
> in the market. I think they are wise enough to gather good
ideas from
> WebMatrix, Clarion and so on. I hope they are putting the
approriate
> resources into V3.0 and not just supporting V2.0. I am also
concerned
> there does not seem to be a lot of "buzz" about CCS. There is
a
> steady stream of favorable press, but no avalanche so far. Of
course,
> we can probably do more in that area than any trade
publication, by
> showcasing CCS in the real world - like (I hope) I am doing at
my
> site. Not a lot of hits so far, though :-( Can't seem to
attract the
> spider-bots either.
>
> DonB
>
> http://www.gotodon.com
>
>
> "Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
>news:Xns93AED3E9FA83Bdblayout@66.180.229.147...
>> I have 20+ years of programming experience so I do have a
fairly
>> good grasp of what I am talking about. The CCS programmers
need
>> to just put more thought into their editor (look at the
Clarion
>> editor for an example).
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> "Dave Rexel" <therex_spamenot@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>news:be4mdm$fkv$1@news.codecharge.com:
>>
>> > Hi Chris
>> >
>> > I hope you will soon (anytime you release a product capable
of
>> > producing webapps in ALL most needed dialects) see the need
for
>> some
>> > workarounds. In CCS this is the comment label which is
pressed
>> into
>> > service as a parsed template delineator. This is the secret
>> ingredient
>> > in the CCS magic pie and something that needs to be handled
>> with care.
>> > (ie not something to be lightly deleted or moved )
>> >
>> > What universal component would you choose if you would
release
>> such an
>> > application addressing ASP, PHP, JSP, CFM and more? if you
>> needed a
>> > common ground?
>> >
>> > Sorry for the rather acidic comment but I do not feel your
>> views on
>> > "That is not good practice" to be founded on any sort of
>> knowledge of
>> > the issues involved. If you have prior konowledge and
>> proficiency in
>> > writing universal templated code generators I am very
>> interested in
>> > your work.
>> >
>> > My advice, read the documentation, get busy and deep with
the
>> app and
>> > you will progress amazingly and will be productive as never
>> before.
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >
>> >
>> > "Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
>> >news:Xns93AE8748E9621cabubba@66.180.229.147...
>> >> I figured it out. I too had apperantly deleted from
comments
>> and that
>> >> screwed up my Search Button. CCS should NOT be relying on
>> comments to
>> >> generate code and keep things aligned. That is not a good
>> practice.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for the help. I probably will go back and read your
>> thread so
>> >> just I have a better understanding of everything.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks again.
>> >>
>> >> Chris
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Phil" <padams@nascar.com> wrote in
>> >>news:be4drh$54d$1@news.codecharge.com:
>> >>
>> >> > Chris, I was getting the same message "Warning:Unable to
>> find the
>> >> > beginning of block Button,Ln: 65, Col: 161." after I
moved a
>> column
>> >> > using the IDE and then generated the page (live page). I
>> had gone
>> >> > into the html of the page, and done some "tweaking".
When I
>> redid
>> >> > the page using a wizard, and left the html alone, it went
>> away.
>> >> >
>> >> > You may want to read throught the thread from "phil" on
6/30
>> >> > "moving columns in design view" as Don B had serveral
ideas
>> and
>> >> > suggestions which he shared.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
>> >> >news:Xns93AE7CBA95C4Bcabubba@66.180.229.147...
>> >> >> Here is the error returned by the browser:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Error Type:
>> >> >> Microsoft VBScript runtime (0x800A01A8)
>> >> >> Object required: 'MainTpl'
>> >> >> /TxRealEstateDataBank/Header.asp, line 85
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I don't have a clue what that means & why it is now
showing
>> up.
>> >> >> Could I deleted something on the main search page that
>> would have
>> >> >> caused this on the Header page?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Any help please!!!!
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Chris Moore <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in
>> >> >> news:Xns93AE79C33CC6Acabubba@ 66.180.229.147:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > I am suddenly getting the following error in an
>> application that
>> >> >> > was working perfectly. This is in the Header.ASP code.
>> What does
>> >> >> > this mean?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Warning:Unable to find the beginning of block
Button,Ln:
>> 65,
>> >> >> > Col:
>> >> >> 161."
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Chris
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
Carl Joshi
Posted: 07/08/2003, 12:45 PM

The most frustrating part of CCS is having the whole page go FUBAR when you
make a small mistake like Chris mentions, or something like trying to move a
component in Design View and not all the components visual
tags/badges/whatever make it to the new position rendering the page
unuseable as the undo works very sporadically.

The answer (a few months ago) from the support team has been that this is
due to limitations of the MSHTML component used in the IDE. Let's hope they
fix this soon, or hopefully dump the buggy Microsoft components.


"Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93B1D3BE68D84dblayout@66.180.229.147...
> Your comments sound just like those in the Clarion forums when
> you talk about not very much buzz. CLarion has a very loyal user
> base but never gets much publicity or press. It sounds like
> Clarion & CodeCharge could be brothers.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> "DonB" <7432D63DBB01D03A196B1EDD80E8@comcast.net> wrote in
>news:bed4rv$q3f$1@news.codecharge.com:
>
> > I have to agree with that. I hope they are seriously working
> in this
> > area. There are things I know they are relly hung up on, like
> the way
> > things "unselect" themselves when you jump between the Design
> and
> > Property panels, when you cna a control's name, etc.
> >
> > It takes a good IDE, as well as good output from it, to be
> successful
> > in the market. I think they are wise enough to gather good
> ideas from
> > WebMatrix, Clarion and so on. I hope they are putting the
> approriate
> > resources into V3.0 and not just supporting V2.0. I am also
> concerned
> > there does not seem to be a lot of "buzz" about CCS. There is
> a
> > steady stream of favorable press, but no avalanche so far. Of
> course,
> > we can probably do more in that area than any trade
> publication, by
> > showcasing CCS in the real world - like (I hope) I am doing at
> my
> > site. Not a lot of hits so far, though :-( Can't seem to
> attract the
> > spider-bots either.
> >
> > DonB
> >
> > http://www.gotodon.com
> >
> >
> > "Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
> >news:Xns93AED3E9FA83Bdblayout@66.180.229.147...
> >> I have 20+ years of programming experience so I do have a
> fairly
> >> good grasp of what I am talking about. The CCS programmers
> need
> >> to just put more thought into their editor (look at the
> Clarion
> >> editor for an example).
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >>
> >> "Dave Rexel" <therex_spamenot@hotmail.com> wrote in
> >>news:be4mdm$fkv$1@news.codecharge.com:
> >>
> >> > Hi Chris
> >> >
> >> > I hope you will soon (anytime you release a product capable
> of
> >> > producing webapps in ALL most needed dialects) see the need
> for
> >> some
> >> > workarounds. In CCS this is the comment label which is
> pressed
> >> into
> >> > service as a parsed template delineator. This is the secret
> >> ingredient
> >> > in the CCS magic pie and something that needs to be handled
> >> with care.
> >> > (ie not something to be lightly deleted or moved )
> >> >
> >> > What universal component would you choose if you would
> release
> >> such an
> >> > application addressing ASP, PHP, JSP, CFM and more? if you
> >> needed a
> >> > common ground?
> >> >
> >> > Sorry for the rather acidic comment but I do not feel your
> >> views on
> >> > "That is not good practice" to be founded on any sort of
> >> knowledge of
> >> > the issues involved. If you have prior konowledge and
> >> proficiency in
> >> > writing universal templated code generators I am very
> >> interested in
> >> > your work.
> >> >
> >> > My advice, read the documentation, get busy and deep with
> the
> >> app and
> >> > you will progress amazingly and will be productive as never
> >> before.
> >> >
> >> > Dave
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:Xns93AE8748E9621cabubba@66.180.229.147...
> >> >> I figured it out. I too had apperantly deleted from
> comments
> >> and that
> >> >> screwed up my Search Button. CCS should NOT be relying on
> >> comments to
> >> >> generate code and keep things aligned. That is not a good
> >> practice.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks for the help. I probably will go back and read your
> >> thread so
> >> >> just I have a better understanding of everything.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks again.
> >> >>
> >> >> Chris
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Phil" <padams@nascar.com> wrote in
> >> >>news:be4drh$54d$1@news.codecharge.com:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Chris, I was getting the same message "Warning:Unable to
> >> find the
> >> >> > beginning of block Button,Ln: 65, Col: 161." after I
> moved a
> >> column
> >> >> > using the IDE and then generated the page (live page). I
> >> had gone
> >> >> > into the html of the page, and done some "tweaking".
> When I
> >> redid
> >> >> > the page using a wizard, and left the html alone, it went
> >> away.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > You may want to read throught the thread from "phil" on
> 6/30
> >> >> > "moving columns in design view" as Don B had serveral
> ideas
> >> and
> >> >> > suggestions which he shared.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:Xns93AE7CBA95C4Bcabubba@66.180.229.147...
> >> >> >> Here is the error returned by the browser:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Error Type:
> >> >> >> Microsoft VBScript runtime (0x800A01A8)
> >> >> >> Object required: 'MainTpl'
> >> >> >> /TxRealEstateDataBank/Header.asp, line 85
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I don't have a clue what that means & why it is now
> showing
> >> up.
> >> >> >> Could I deleted something on the main search page that
> >> would have
> >> >> >> caused this on the Header page?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Any help please!!!!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Chris Moore <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in
> >> >> >> news:Xns93AE79C33CC6Acabubba@ 66.180.229.147:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > I am suddenly getting the following error in an
> >> application that
> >> >> >> > was working perfectly. This is in the Header.ASP code.
> >> What does
> >> >> >> > this mean?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "Warning:Unable to find the beginning of block
> Button,Ln:
> >> 65,
> >> >> >> > Col:
> >> >> >> 161."
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Chris
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>

Phil
Posted: 07/08/2003, 4:46 PM

Here's one for you...for 10 years I used a database called "filePro", an
ancient language/database that begin around 1980 and was sold by radio shack
for a few years. They probably sold 250k copies over 20 years, and I
dumped it (except to support some old clients who just can't let it go).
But their followers are extremely loyal...they even have an annul conference
where a couple of hundred die hards meet.

Trust me...you DON'T want code charge to follow that path!!! If ccs remains
an obscure tool, I will probably dump it, once I have a better handle on
asp. I really like ccs, so I hope it becomes mainstream.


"Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93B1D3BE68D84dblayout@66.180.229.147...
> Your comments sound just like those in the Clarion forums when
> you talk about not very much buzz. CLarion has a very loyal user
> base but never gets much publicity or press. It sounds like
> Clarion & CodeCharge could be brothers.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> "DonB" <7432D63DBB01D03A196B1EDD80E8@comcast.net> wrote in
>news:bed4rv$q3f$1@news.codecharge.com:
>
> > I have to agree with that. I hope they are seriously working
> in this
> > area. There are things I know they are relly hung up on, like
> the way
> > things "unselect" themselves when you jump between the Design
> and
> > Property panels, when you cna a control's name, etc.
> >
> > It takes a good IDE, as well as good output from it, to be
> successful
> > in the market. I think they are wise enough to gather good
> ideas from
> > WebMatrix, Clarion and so on. I hope they are putting the
> approriate
> > resources into V3.0 and not just supporting V2.0. I am also
> concerned
> > there does not seem to be a lot of "buzz" about CCS. There is
> a
> > steady stream of favorable press, but no avalanche so far. Of
> course,
> > we can probably do more in that area than any trade
> publication, by
> > showcasing CCS in the real world - like (I hope) I am doing at
> my
> > site. Not a lot of hits so far, though :-( Can't seem to
> attract the
> > spider-bots either.
> >
> > DonB
> >
> > http://www.gotodon.com
> >
> >
> > "Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
> >news:Xns93AED3E9FA83Bdblayout@66.180.229.147...
> >> I have 20+ years of programming experience so I do have a
> fairly
> >> good grasp of what I am talking about. The CCS programmers
> need
> >> to just put more thought into their editor (look at the
> Clarion
> >> editor for an example).
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >>
> >> "Dave Rexel" <therex_spamenot@hotmail.com> wrote in
> >>news:be4mdm$fkv$1@news.codecharge.com:
> >>
> >> > Hi Chris
> >> >
> >> > I hope you will soon (anytime you release a product capable
> of
> >> > producing webapps in ALL most needed dialects) see the need
> for
> >> some
> >> > workarounds. In CCS this is the comment label which is
> pressed
> >> into
> >> > service as a parsed template delineator. This is the secret
> >> ingredient
> >> > in the CCS magic pie and something that needs to be handled
> >> with care.
> >> > (ie not something to be lightly deleted or moved )
> >> >
> >> > What universal component would you choose if you would
> release
> >> such an
> >> > application addressing ASP, PHP, JSP, CFM and more? if you
> >> needed a
> >> > common ground?
> >> >
> >> > Sorry for the rather acidic comment but I do not feel your
> >> views on
> >> > "That is not good practice" to be founded on any sort of
> >> knowledge of
> >> > the issues involved. If you have prior konowledge and
> >> proficiency in
> >> > writing universal templated code generators I am very
> >> interested in
> >> > your work.
> >> >
> >> > My advice, read the documentation, get busy and deep with
> the
> >> app and
> >> > you will progress amazingly and will be productive as never
> >> before.
> >> >
> >> > Dave
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:Xns93AE8748E9621cabubba@66.180.229.147...
> >> >> I figured it out. I too had apperantly deleted from
> comments
> >> and that
> >> >> screwed up my Search Button. CCS should NOT be relying on
> >> comments to
> >> >> generate code and keep things aligned. That is not a good
> >> practice.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks for the help. I probably will go back and read your
> >> thread so
> >> >> just I have a better understanding of everything.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks again.
> >> >>
> >> >> Chris
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Phil" <padams@nascar.com> wrote in
> >> >>news:be4drh$54d$1@news.codecharge.com:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Chris, I was getting the same message "Warning:Unable to
> >> find the
> >> >> > beginning of block Button,Ln: 65, Col: 161." after I
> moved a
> >> column
> >> >> > using the IDE and then generated the page (live page). I
> >> had gone
> >> >> > into the html of the page, and done some "tweaking".
> When I
> >> redid
> >> >> > the page using a wizard, and left the html alone, it went
> >> away.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > You may want to read throught the thread from "phil" on
> 6/30
> >> >> > "moving columns in design view" as Don B had serveral
> ideas
> >> and
> >> >> > suggestions which he shared.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:Xns93AE7CBA95C4Bcabubba@66.180.229.147...
> >> >> >> Here is the error returned by the browser:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Error Type:
> >> >> >> Microsoft VBScript runtime (0x800A01A8)
> >> >> >> Object required: 'MainTpl'
> >> >> >> /TxRealEstateDataBank/Header.asp, line 85
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I don't have a clue what that means & why it is now
> showing
> >> up.
> >> >> >> Could I deleted something on the main search page that
> >> would have
> >> >> >> caused this on the Header page?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Any help please!!!!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Chris Moore <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in
> >> >> >> news:Xns93AE79C33CC6Acabubba@ 66.180.229.147:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > I am suddenly getting the following error in an
> >> application that
> >> >> >> > was working perfectly. This is in the Header.ASP code.
> >> What does
> >> >> >> > this mean?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "Warning:Unable to find the beginning of block
> Button,Ln:
> >> 65,
> >> >> >> > Col:
> >> >> >> 161."
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Chris
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>

Chris Moore
Posted: 07/08/2003, 8:08 PM

I agree. I would prefer it become more mainstream and set the
standard for this type of web programming.

Chris

"Phil" <phil@cfl.rr.com> wrote innews:befl41$6c7$1
@news.codecharge.com
:

> Here's one for you...for 10 years I used a database called
"filePro",
> an ancient language/database that begin around 1980 and was
sold by
> radio shack for a few years. They probably sold 250k copies
over 20
> years, and I dumped it (except to support some old clients who
just
> can't let it go). But their followers are extremely
loyal...they even
> have an annul conference where a couple of hundred die hards
meet.
>
> Trust me...you DON'T want code charge to follow that path!!! If
ccs
> remains an obscure tool, I will probably dump it, once I have a
better
> handle on asp. I really like ccs, so I hope it becomes
mainstream.
>
>
> "Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
>news:Xns93B1D3BE68D84dblayout@66.180.229.147...
>> Your comments sound just like those in the Clarion forums when
>> you talk about not very much buzz. CLarion has a very loyal
user
>> base but never gets much publicity or press. It sounds like
>> Clarion & CodeCharge could be brothers.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> "DonB" <7432D63DBB01D03A196B1EDD80E8@comcast.net> wrote in
>>news:bed4rv$q3f$1@news.codecharge.com:
>>
>> > I have to agree with that. I hope they are seriously
working
>> in this
>> > area. There are things I know they are relly hung up on,
like
>> the way
>> > things "unselect" themselves when you jump between the
Design
>> and
>> > Property panels, when you cna a control's name, etc.
>> >
>> > It takes a good IDE, as well as good output from it, to be
>> successful
>> > in the market. I think they are wise enough to gather good
>> ideas from
>> > WebMatrix, Clarion and so on. I hope they are putting the
>> approriate
>> > resources into V3.0 and not just supporting V2.0. I am also
>> concerned
>> > there does not seem to be a lot of "buzz" about CCS. There
is
>> a
>> > steady stream of favorable press, but no avalanche so far.
Of
>> course,
>> > we can probably do more in that area than any trade
>> publication, by
>> > showcasing CCS in the real world - like (I hope) I am doing
at
>> my
>> > site. Not a lot of hits so far, though :-( Can't seem to
>> attract the
>> > spider-bots either.
>> >
>> > DonB
>> >
>> > http://www.gotodon.com
>> >
>> >
>> > "Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
>> >news:Xns93AED3E9FA83Bdblayout@66.180.229.147...
>> >> I have 20+ years of programming experience so I do have a
>> fairly
>> >> good grasp of what I am talking about. The CCS programmers
>> need
>> >> to just put more thought into their editor (look at the
>> Clarion
>> >> editor for an example).
>> >>
>> >> Chris
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Dave Rexel" <therex_spamenot@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> >>news:be4mdm$fkv$1@news.codecharge.com:
>> >>
>> >> > Hi Chris
>> >> >
>> >> > I hope you will soon (anytime you release a product
capable
>> of
>> >> > producing webapps in ALL most needed dialects) see the
need
>> for
>> >> some
>> >> > workarounds. In CCS this is the comment label which is
>> pressed
>> >> into
>> >> > service as a parsed template delineator. This is the
secret
>> >> ingredient
>> >> > in the CCS magic pie and something that needs to be
handled
>> >> with care.
>> >> > (ie not something to be lightly deleted or moved )
>> >> >
>> >> > What universal component would you choose if you would
>> release
>> >> such an
>> >> > application addressing ASP, PHP, JSP, CFM and more? if
you
>> >> needed a
>> >> > common ground?
>> >> >
>> >> > Sorry for the rather acidic comment but I do not feel
your
>> >> views on
>> >> > "That is not good practice" to be founded on any sort of
>> >> knowledge of
>> >> > the issues involved. If you have prior konowledge and
>> >> proficiency in
>> >> > writing universal templated code generators I am very
>> >> interested in
>> >> > your work.
>> >> >
>> >> > My advice, read the documentation, get busy and deep with
>> the
>> >> app and
>> >> > you will progress amazingly and will be productive as
never
>> >> before.
>> >> >
>> >> > Dave
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
>> >> >news:Xns93AE8748E9621cabubba@66.180.229.147...
>> >> >> I figured it out. I too had apperantly deleted from
>> comments
>> >> and that
>> >> >> screwed up my Search Button. CCS should NOT be relying
on
>> >> comments to
>> >> >> generate code and keep things aligned. That is not a
good
>> >> practice.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks for the help. I probably will go back and read
your
>> >> thread so
>> >> >> just I have a better understanding of everything.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks again.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Chris
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Phil" <padams@nascar.com> wrote in
>> >> >>news:be4drh$54d$1@news.codecharge.com:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Chris, I was getting the same message "Warning:Unable
to
>> >> find the
>> >> >> > beginning of block Button,Ln: 65, Col: 161." after I
>> moved a
>> >> column
>> >> >> > using the IDE and then generated the page (live page).
I
>> >> had gone
>> >> >> > into the html of the page, and done some "tweaking".
>> When I
>> >> redid
>> >> >> > the page using a wizard, and left the html alone, it
went
>> >> away.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > You may want to read throught the thread from "phil"
on
>> 6/30
>> >> >> > "moving columns in design view" as Don B had serveral
>> ideas
>> >> and
>> >> >> > suggestions which he shared.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Chris Moore" <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >news:Xns93AE7CBA95C4Bcabubba@66.180.229.147...
>> >> >> >> Here is the error returned by the browser:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Error Type:
>> >> >> >> Microsoft VBScript runtime (0x800A01A8)
>> >> >> >> Object required: 'MainTpl'
>> >> >> >> /TxRealEstateDataBank/Header.asp, line 85
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I don't have a clue what that means & why it is now
>> showing
>> >> up.
>> >> >> >> Could I deleted something on the main search page
that
>> >> would have
>> >> >> >> caused this on the Header page?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Any help please!!!!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Chris Moore <chris@dblayout.com> wrote in
>> >> >> >> news:Xns93AE79C33CC6Acabubba@ 66.180.229.147:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > I am suddenly getting the following error in an
>> >> application that
>> >> >> >> > was working perfectly. This is in the Header.ASP
code.
>> >> What does
>> >> >> >> > this mean?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "Warning:Unable to find the beginning of block
>> Button,Ln:
>> >> 65,
>> >> >> >> > Col:
>> >> >> >> 161."
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Thanks
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Chris
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>

   


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