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Jeri
Posted: 02/19/2001, 6:13 PM

Hi,

While I like what I've seen from the demos I've never been so frustrating
with a package "so simple to learn and easy to use that our user manual
could consist of the following 8 short steps: :-)

Questions:

1. Does the database have to be created separately? For example, I use
Vbulletin from vbulletin.com on one of my sites. It set up the MySQL
database structure during the installation procedure.

2. If, it doesn't create the MySQL (or other) database directly, that would
be a nice feature to add.

I've checked the docs and I simply can't find the answer to this.

Thanks,

Jeri

Jeffrey A. Stuart
Posted: 02/19/2001, 10:53 PM

Hi Jeri.. the answer is yes, you have to create the DB yourself... You might want to look
into phpMyAdmin to help you with that...

In article <96sjs2$6rg$1@news.codecharge.com>,jeri@marketingresource.com says...
> Hi,
>
> While I like what I've seen from the demos I've never been so frustrating
> with a package "so simple to learn and easy to use that our user manual
> could consist of the following 8 short steps: :-)
>
> Questions:
>
> 1. Does the database have to be created separately? For example, I use
> Vbulletin from vbulletin.com on one of my sites. It set up the MySQL
> database structure during the installation procedure.
>
> 2. If, it doesn't create the MySQL (or other) database directly, that would
> be a nice feature to add.
>
> I've checked the docs and I simply can't find the answer to this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeri
>
>
>
-
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CodeCharge
Posted: 02/22/2001, 7:45 PM

> 1. Does the database have to be created separately? For example, I use
> Vbulletin from vbulletin.com on one of my sites. It set up the MySQL
> database structure during the installation procedure.

Yes, the database has to be created seperately.
Vbulletin contains a database that someone had to create manually and
provide the appropriate script to set it up.
Our examples also contain manually created SQL scripts allowing you to
create the tables necessary to run the examples.

> 2. If, it doesn't create the MySQL (or other) database directly, that
would
> be a nice feature to add.

If you mean a database conversion tool (to convert MS Access to MySQL), then
we are planning on adding it.

But if you mean the functionality to create a database from scratch, then it
is not a good idea. There are so many tools doing this much better that
trying to duplicate them and catch up with years of development wouldn't
make sense.
But you may consider MS Access a database creation add-on for CodeCharge :-)

I also recommend (although never used it) trying DBTools from
http://dbtools.vila.bol.com.br
It supposedly allows for easy management of MySQL database, as well as
export from MS Access to MySQL.

> I've checked the docs and I simply can't find the answer to this.

The docs specify that you need to connect to an existing database.
But you're right, it is not explicit and we will add appropriate comments to
the demo on our site.

Adam


Jeri
Posted: 02/24/2001, 6:20 PM

>
> If you mean a database conversion tool (to convert MS Access to MySQL),
then
> we are planning on adding it.
>
> But if you mean the functionality to create a database from scratch, then
it
> is not a good idea. There are so many tools doing this much better that
> trying to duplicate them and catch up with years of development wouldn't
> make sense.
> But you may consider MS Access a database creation add-on for CodeCharge
:-)

HI Adam,

If you really want this product to be adopted by as many people as possible,
I'd suggest adding the following to it.

1. When the database structure is created, it also creates the code that
will create the database. When I installed Vbulletin and other MySQL
programs I didn't have to manually create the database and enter the table
structure. It was automatic.

Sure it can be done manually, but it seems like a logical addition to add to
me. And the coding wouldn't be that difficult either.

It's been a long time since I've been so frustrated trying to get a piece of
software to work. :-(

Jer




>
> I also recommend (although never used it) trying DBTools from
> http://dbtools.vila.bol.com.br
> It supposedly allows for easy management of MySQL database, as well as
> export from MS Access to MySQL.
>
> > I've checked the docs and I simply can't find the answer to this.
>
> The docs specify that you need to connect to an existing database.
> But you're right, it is not explicit and we will add appropriate comments
to
> the demo on our site.
>
> Adam
>
>
>

Don Harvey
Posted: 03/08/2001, 2:36 PM

Jeri,

I am having the same problem. The actual creation of the database and where
to put it is confusing.

I program in topspeed which will create dbase, foxpro, ect.

It seems like a lot of the hard work has been done for us, and if I could
get just one simple database to work on my website, will purchase in a
heartbeat.

Since I just downloaded today and know very little about accessing databases
across the web any question I ask is probably going be a dumb one. But at
first glance I like and appreciate the work that has been put into CC.

Don Harvey
www.moark.com

"Jeri" <jeri@marketingresource.com> wrote in message
news:96sjs2$6rg$1@news.codecharge.com...
> Hi,
>
> While I like what I've seen from the demos I've never been so frustrating
> with a package "so simple to learn and easy to use that our user manual
> could consist of the following 8 short steps: :-)
>
> Questions:
>
> 1. Does the database have to be created separately? For example, I use
> Vbulletin from vbulletin.com on one of my sites. It set up the MySQL
> database structure during the installation procedure.
>
> 2. If, it doesn't create the MySQL (or other) database directly, that
would
> be a nice feature to add.
>
> I've checked the docs and I simply can't find the answer to this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeri
>
>

CodeCharge
Posted: 03/08/2001, 4:54 PM

Don,

I would recommend using MS Access as the first step. There are many related
materials on the web.
Then CodeCharge can access your database file (.mdb) and will show you
various tables and fields that you have in the database. Then you may select
the fields you like to place on each web page.
Web Pages in CodeCharge are abstract because they dosn't exist and don't
look like FrontPage or other web design tools.
You have to be aware that CodeCharge generates both the Web Pages and the
Code that drives them. In CodeCharge, you are rather assembling blocks,
where each block can be a Table, a Search Box, a Login Box, etc., connected
to your database. Once you select those blocks, CodeCharge will generate web
pages that you may further modify with HTML design tools.

Hope this helps somewhat.

Adam

"Don Harvey" <moark1@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:9891hl$7d6$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> Jeri,
>
> I am having the same problem. The actual creation of the database and
where
> to put it is confusing.
>
> I program in topspeed which will create dbase, foxpro, ect.
>
> It seems like a lot of the hard work has been done for us, and if I could
> get just one simple database to work on my website, will purchase in a
> heartbeat.
>
> Since I just downloaded today and know very little about accessing
databases
> across the web any question I ask is probably going be a dumb one. But at
> first glance I like and appreciate the work that has been put into CC.
>
> Don Harvey
> www.moark.com
>
> "Jeri" <jeri@marketingresource.com> wrote in message
>news:96sjs2$6rg$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > While I like what I've seen from the demos I've never been so
frustrating
> > with a package "so simple to learn and easy to use that our user manual
> > could consist of the following 8 short steps: :-)
> >
> > Questions:
> >
> > 1. Does the database have to be created separately? For example, I use
> > Vbulletin from vbulletin.com on one of my sites. It set up the MySQL
> > database structure during the installation procedure.
> >
> > 2. If, it doesn't create the MySQL (or other) database directly, that
> would
> > be a nice feature to add.
> >
> > I've checked the docs and I simply can't find the answer to this.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jeri
> >
> >
>
>

Paul
Posted: 03/09/2001, 6:47 AM

Don;

I'd have to agree with Adam in his suggestion that you use Access for your
web development. If you don't want to pay the price for Access you can get
EasyASP which contains EasyData. EasyDate creates Access 97 mdb files so
you can use it to build your database. EasyASP is freeware. You can find it
at:

http://www.web.net/ebanker/easyasp

HTH;

Paul
Don Harvey wrote in message <9891hl$7d6$1@mail.tankhill.com>...
>Jeri,
>
>I am having the same problem. The actual creation of the database and
where
>to put it is confusing.
>
>I program in topspeed which will create dbase, foxpro, ect.
>
>It seems like a lot of the hard work has been done for us, and if I could
>get just one simple database to work on my website, will purchase in a
>heartbeat.
>
>Since I just downloaded today and know very little about accessing
databases
>across the web any question I ask is probably going be a dumb one. But at
>first glance I like and appreciate the work that has been put into CC.
>
>Don Harvey
>www.moark.com
>
>"Jeri" <jeri@marketingresource.com> wrote in message
>news:96sjs2$6rg$1@news.codecharge.com...
>> Hi,
>>
>> While I like what I've seen from the demos I've never been so frustrating
>> with a package "so simple to learn and easy to use that our user manual
>> could consist of the following 8 short steps: :-)
>>
>> Questions:
>>
>> 1. Does the database have to be created separately? For example, I use
>> Vbulletin from vbulletin.com on one of my sites. It set up the MySQL
>> database structure during the installation procedure.
>>
>> 2. If, it doesn't create the MySQL (or other) database directly, that
>would
>> be a nice feature to add.
>>
>> I've checked the docs and I simply can't find the answer to this.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jeri
>>
>>
>
>

Don Harvey
Posted: 03/09/2001, 4:03 PM

Thanks Paul,

I admit I am struggling with this. I am not going to give up until I figure
out how this works.

Don

"Paul" <paporter@visto.com> wrote in message
news:98aqd5$har$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> Don;
>
> I'd have to agree with Adam in his suggestion that you use Access for your
> web development. If you don't want to pay the price for Access you can
get
> EasyASP which contains EasyData. EasyDate creates Access 97 mdb files so
> you can use it to build your database. EasyASP is freeware. You can find
it
> at:
>
> http://www.web.net/ebanker/easyasp
>
> HTH;
>
> Paul
> Don Harvey wrote in message <9891hl$7d6$1@mail.tankhill.com>...
> >Jeri,
> >
> >I am having the same problem. The actual creation of the database and
> where
> >to put it is confusing.
> >
> >I program in topspeed which will create dbase, foxpro, ect.
> >
> >It seems like a lot of the hard work has been done for us, and if I could
> >get just one simple database to work on my website, will purchase in a
> >heartbeat.
> >
> >Since I just downloaded today and know very little about accessing
> databases
> >across the web any question I ask is probably going be a dumb one. But
at
> >first glance I like and appreciate the work that has been put into CC.
> >
> >Don Harvey
> >www.moark.com
> >
> >"Jeri" <jeri@marketingresource.com> wrote in message
> >news:96sjs2$6rg$1@news.codecharge.com...
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> While I like what I've seen from the demos I've never been so
frustrating
> >> with a package "so simple to learn and easy to use that our user manual
> >> could consist of the following 8 short steps: :-)
> >>
> >> Questions:
> >>
> >> 1. Does the database have to be created separately? For example, I use
> >> Vbulletin from vbulletin.com on one of my sites. It set up the MySQL
> >> database structure during the installation procedure.
> >>
> >> 2. If, it doesn't create the MySQL (or other) database directly, that
> >would
> >> be a nice feature to add.
> >>
> >> I've checked the docs and I simply can't find the answer to this.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jeri
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Don Harvey
Posted: 03/09/2001, 4:08 PM

Paul,

The link you gave generates a 404 page not found.

Don

"Paul" <paporter@visto.com> wrote in message
news:98aqd5$har$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> Don;
>
> I'd have to agree with Adam in his suggestion that you use Access for your
> web development. If you don't want to pay the price for Access you can
get
> EasyASP which contains EasyData. EasyDate creates Access 97 mdb files so
> you can use it to build your database. EasyASP is freeware. You can find
it
> at:
>
> http://www.web.net/ebanker/easyasp
>
> HTH;
>
> Paul
> Don Harvey wrote in message <9891hl$7d6$1@mail.tankhill.com>...
> >Jeri,
> >
> >I am having the same problem. The actual creation of the database and
> where
> >to put it is confusing.
> >
> >I program in topspeed which will create dbase, foxpro, ect.
> >
> >It seems like a lot of the hard work has been done for us, and if I could
> >get just one simple database to work on my website, will purchase in a
> >heartbeat.
> >
> >Since I just downloaded today and know very little about accessing
> databases
> >across the web any question I ask is probably going be a dumb one. But
at
> >first glance I like and appreciate the work that has been put into CC.
> >
> >Don Harvey
> >www.moark.com
> >
> >"Jeri" <jeri@marketingresource.com> wrote in message
> >news:96sjs2$6rg$1@news.codecharge.com...
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> While I like what I've seen from the demos I've never been so
frustrating
> >> with a package "so simple to learn and easy to use that our user manual
> >> could consist of the following 8 short steps: :-)
> >>
> >> Questions:
> >>
> >> 1. Does the database have to be created separately? For example, I use
> >> Vbulletin from vbulletin.com on one of my sites. It set up the MySQL
> >> database structure during the installation procedure.
> >>
> >> 2. If, it doesn't create the MySQL (or other) database directly, that
> >would
> >> be a nice feature to add.
> >>
> >> I've checked the docs and I simply can't find the answer to this.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jeri
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Don Harvey
Posted: 03/09/2001, 4:11 PM

Oops, cancel this, I did a google search and found it.
Thanks for the link.

"Don Harvey" <moark1@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:98bra7$df0$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> Paul,
>
> The link you gave generates a 404 page not found.
>
> Don
>
> "Paul" <paporter@visto.com> wrote in message
>news:98aqd5$har$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> > Don;
> >
> > I'd have to agree with Adam in his suggestion that you use Access for
your
> > web development. If you don't want to pay the price for Access you can
> get
> > EasyASP which contains EasyData. EasyDate creates Access 97 mdb files
so
> > you can use it to build your database. EasyASP is freeware. You can
find
> it
> > at:
> >
> > http://www.web.net/ebanker/easyasp
> >
> > HTH;
> >
> > Paul
> > Don Harvey wrote in message <9891hl$7d6$1@mail.tankhill.com>...
> > >Jeri,
> > >
> > >I am having the same problem. The actual creation of the database and
> > where
> > >to put it is confusing.
> > >
> > >I program in topspeed which will create dbase, foxpro, ect.
> > >
> > >It seems like a lot of the hard work has been done for us, and if I
could
> > >get just one simple database to work on my website, will purchase in a
> > >heartbeat.
> > >
> > >Since I just downloaded today and know very little about accessing
> > databases
> > >across the web any question I ask is probably going be a dumb one. But
> at
> > >first glance I like and appreciate the work that has been put into CC.
> > >
> > >Don Harvey
> > >www.moark.com
> > >
> > >"Jeri" <jeri@marketingresource.com> wrote in message
> > >news:96sjs2$6rg$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> While I like what I've seen from the demos I've never been so
> frustrating
> > >> with a package "so simple to learn and easy to use that our user
manual
> > >> could consist of the following 8 short steps: :-)
> > >>
> > >> Questions:
> > >>
> > >> 1. Does the database have to be created separately? For example, I
use
> > >> Vbulletin from vbulletin.com on one of my sites. It set up the MySQL
> > >> database structure during the installation procedure.
> > >>
> > >> 2. If, it doesn't create the MySQL (or other) database directly, that
> > >would
> > >> be a nice feature to add.
> > >>
> > >> I've checked the docs and I simply can't find the answer to this.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Jeri
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

CodeCharge
Posted: 03/09/2001, 5:27 PM

Don,

Please feel free to ask questions, possibly by emailing the support directly
atsupport@codecharge.com
There are several components to creating the website:
- creating the database (for example using MS Access)
- setting up the web server (for example PWS for Win95/98)
- seeting up the database connection in CodeCharge
- creating pages
- publishing the site - generating and copying the code to the directory
readable by your web server
etc.

Please let us know which step you need help with and we will discuss.

Adam S.
CodeCharge Support


"Don Harvey" <moark1@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:98br18$d5c$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> Thanks Paul,
>
> I admit I am struggling with this. I am not going to give up until I
figure
> out how this works.
>
> Don
>
> "Paul" <paporter@visto.com> wrote in message
>news:98aqd5$har$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> > Don;
> >
> > I'd have to agree with Adam in his suggestion that you use Access for
your
> > web development. If you don't want to pay the price for Access you can
> get
> > EasyASP which contains EasyData. EasyDate creates Access 97 mdb files
so
> > you can use it to build your database. EasyASP is freeware. You can
find
> it
> > at:
> >
> > http://www.web.net/ebanker/easyasp
> >
> > HTH;
> >
> > Paul
> > Don Harvey wrote in message <9891hl$7d6$1@mail.tankhill.com>...
> > >Jeri,
> > >
> > >I am having the same problem. The actual creation of the database and
> > where
> > >to put it is confusing.
> > >
> > >I program in topspeed which will create dbase, foxpro, ect.
> > >
> > >It seems like a lot of the hard work has been done for us, and if I
could
> > >get just one simple database to work on my website, will purchase in a
> > >heartbeat.
> > >
> > >Since I just downloaded today and know very little about accessing
> > databases
> > >across the web any question I ask is probably going be a dumb one. But
> at
> > >first glance I like and appreciate the work that has been put into CC.
> > >
> > >Don Harvey
> > >www.moark.com
> > >
> > >"Jeri" <jeri@marketingresource.com> wrote in message
> > >news:96sjs2$6rg$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> While I like what I've seen from the demos I've never been so
> frustrating
> > >> with a package "so simple to learn and easy to use that our user
manual
> > >> could consist of the following 8 short steps: :-)
> > >>
> > >> Questions:
> > >>
> > >> 1. Does the database have to be created separately? For example, I
use
> > >> Vbulletin from vbulletin.com on one of my sites. It set up the MySQL
> > >> database structure during the installation procedure.
> > >>
> > >> 2. If, it doesn't create the MySQL (or other) database directly, that
> > >would
> > >> be a nice feature to add.
> > >>
> > >> I've checked the docs and I simply can't find the answer to this.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Jeri
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


   


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