Paul Padilla
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| Posted: 03/13/2001, 1:09 PM |
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Does CodeCharge support two way? Once it generates source, can I tweak
the source without the CodeCharge writing over it?
Paul
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Alexey Alexapolsky
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| Posted: 03/14/2001, 3:35 AM |
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Basically it's one way code generation. You make skeleton iof your site in
CodeCharge
in a couple of days and then you start add some sophisticated business login
by hand.
If you change code out of CC , it will ask your permission to overwrite it.
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Regards,
Alexey
CodeCharge Support
Paul Padilla <paul@webimpaq.com> wrote in message
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> Does CodeCharge support two way? Once it generates source, can I tweak
> the source without the CodeCharge writing over it?
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> Paul
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Paul Padilla
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| Posted: 03/16/2001, 9:06 AM |
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Hi Alexey,
Isn't that going back to the old Drumbeat methodology? This really didn't
work. Is there plans to go two way?
Paul
Alexey Alexapolsky wrote:
> Basically it's one way code generation. You make skeleton iof your site in
> CodeCharge
> in a couple of days and then you start add some sophisticated business login
> by hand.
> If you change code out of CC , it will ask your permission to overwrite it.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Alexey
> CodeCharge Support
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> Paul Padilla <paul@webimpaq.com> wrote in message
>news:3AAE8C8A.F9F8A5BE@webimpaq.com...
> > Does CodeCharge support two way? Once it generates source, can I tweak
> > the source without the CodeCharge writing over it?
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> > Paul
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CodeCharge
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| Posted: 03/19/2001, 9:21 PM |
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> Isn't that going back to the old Drumbeat methodology? This really didn't
> work. Is there plans to go two way?
Paul,
Obviously the issue of code generation is a long-existing one, but the
problem may not be just the one-way approach.
First at all, there are several Drumbeat related topics that may be
discussed:
- Did Drumbeat's methodology really didn't work ?
- How would Drumbeat evolve if Macromedia didn't purchase it ?
- If Drumbeat methodology didn't work - was the two-way issue the main
problem ?
- What is the difference between the two-way and one-way approach ?
In our opinion though, the two-way approach may never work - the application
can be easily killed just by the complexity of such a task, and there is no
need for this. That's why we're probably not aware of anyone even trying
this approach.
Would you imagine anyone compiling a Visual Basic program, modifying the
resulting executable and then wanting to decompile it and import back into
the Visual Basic ?
Or do you see a need for converting an MS Word document to PDF, making the
changes in PDF, and then importing it back to MS Word ? I'd rather select
one of them, MS Word or PDF, as my main standard, finish my document, and
then convert it to as many other formats as I need, without further changes.
Code generation is no different. The challenge is to allow the developer to
make ALL changes within the development environment, generate the code and
never change it outside of this environment. CodeCharge development is still
limited and therefore the developer may end up making changes outside of
CodeCharge. The solution to this is to:
a) Use CodeCharge as a prototyping environment to quickly generate various
web components. It's probably better than spending time writing the base
code manually. We can improve in this area by adding more components (form
and field types, events and modules). Considering the fact that an ultimate
code generation tool doesn't exist, it's still pretty good to have the best
prototyping tool.
b) Make CodeCharge flexible to the point where the developer can achieve
practically anything within the CodeCharge environment. Make CodeCharge
modular, easily extensible, modifiable and compatible with other
technologies (XML, COM, ActiveX, etc.).
We'd like to do both a) and b).
If we can achieve this, no one will ever ask the two-way question again 
Regards,
CodeCharge Team
"Paul Padilla" <paul@webimpaq.com> wrote in message
news:3AB247F5.B23879D7@webimpaq.com...
> Hi Alexey,
>
> Isn't that going back to the old Drumbeat methodology? This really didn't
> work. Is there plans to go two way?
>
> Paul
>
> Alexey Alexapolsky wrote:
>
> > Basically it's one way code generation. You make skeleton iof your site
in
> > CodeCharge
> > in a couple of days and then you start add some sophisticated business
login
> > by hand.
> > If you change code out of CC , it will ask your permission to overwrite
it.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Alexey
> > CodeCharge Support
> >
> > Paul Padilla <paul@webimpaq.com> wrote in message
> >news:3AAE8C8A.F9F8A5BE@webimpaq.com...
> > > Does CodeCharge support two way? Once it generates source, can I
tweak
> > > the source without the CodeCharge writing over it?
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
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