Eddy
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| Posted: 06/10/2001, 6:06 PM |
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Hi group,
Maybe someone can help me out here.
I first tried support, but it seems they don't have the time right now.
Maybe somebody around here has some more time AND the knowledge for a
solution.
MY FIRST WRITING TO SUPPORT:
Wonder if you can help me with this one :
I want to add a check out button to the bookstore example. I now that there
is some documentation for a Verisign PayFlow button, but I need something
different.
I would like to have a check out button that only generates a email to a
specified email address with the grid that is currently in the members cart.
After sending the mail the cart should also been emptied en make a copy of
the order somewhere in another table. I know that this should not be too
difficult but I can't figure it out. So I could use some help here, and if
possible some example. I am working with PHP-MYSQL.
Thanks so much in advance,
Eddy
ANSWER FROM SUPPORT:
We have many request and may not have time to create such an example,
specially because it would end up being a full application instead of just
an example 
If one of our support people will find time, we may have this later.
For now, I can only recommend that you write your own PHP code and add it to
the "After Insert" Event in CodeCharge, on the Shopping Cart/Order Form.
Such code would have to read the values from the table, create and send an
email, as well as execute an SQL query that deletes some records.
I also propose that you download PHP version of this support system from ...
You will find there examples of Events, from which you can learn.
> Yes, but not what I am looking for right now, still interesting.
MY ANSWER:
Hi Guys,
Sorry, I know that you have a lot of work and you are doing a good job as
well.
However, I bought CodeCharge in the first place NOT to write to much code,
not that I am too lazy but because I am not an expert on this field.
I can see in your forum that more people are awaiting such an example, and
probably for the same reason as I do. Some code that "read the values from
the table, create and send an email, as well as execute an SQL query that
modifies some records" cannot be that hard for expert-programmers as
yourself. I am not trying to be offended here but I just think a guru can
make such an example (only the code) in maybe less than 1hr. and it
certainly is not writing a full application. Sending an email with some data
out of a table is certainly code that a lot of people can use and seems not
to be some exaggerated demand.
Well, like I said before, you are doing a good job and I enjoy together with
you in the growing success of your program, but I still think you should
implement a simple function like sending some data with an email.
In the meantime I will post my problem again in the newsgroup in the hope
someone can help me out. I promised my client to implement this possibility
in his web site A.S.A.P.
Respectfully yours,
Eddy,
Well that's it, hoping that someone wrote already this piece of code for
himself.
Except for my email problem I am still impressed with what CodeCharge can
do.
Greetings to you all,
Eddy,
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Joachim Uersfeld
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| Posted: 06/10/2001, 11:40 PM |
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I think, you don't understand. You bought a license for an exccellent
programing tool for a low price, you bought not a shop system and you
bought not developing time.
>> Some code that "read the values from the table, create and send an >>
email, as well as execute an SQL query that modifies some records"
It is on your harddisk. Look at the examples / tellafriend and other
examples.
Joachim
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Eddy
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| Posted: 06/11/2001, 1:18 AM |
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Thank you very much for your help, BUT the "examples / tellafriend and other
examples"
DONT read the values from the table and send them by mail, it only sends the
form fields from the previous page.
Eddy,
"Joachim Uersfeld" <uersfeld@pc-team.de> wrote in message
news:VA.00000007.24610a85@ue1.domaene.ue2.com...
> I think, you don't understand. You bought a license for an exccellent
> programing tool for a low price, you bought not a shop system and you
> bought not developing time.
>
> >> Some code that "read the values from the table, create and send an >>
> email, as well as execute an SQL query that modifies some records"
>
> It is on your harddisk. Look at the examples / tellafriend and other
> examples.
>
> Joachim
>
>
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Joachim Uersfeld
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| Posted: 06/11/2001, 1:52 AM |
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It's the same procedure. Rename the "Save" button in the form with the shop
basket to 'Checkout'. In 'Before Update' you can send the mail and execute a
sql squery to store the informations in another table. This is shown in
tellafriend.
Replace get_param("...") with $fld... Every field value is stored in a
variable like '$fldmyTableField'. The var '$fldCustomerName' contains in
CodeCharge the value of table field 'CustomerName', the var '$fldStreet'
contains the value from table field 'Street' ...
Joachim
"Eddy" <eddy@intramanga.com> wrote in message
news:9g1usq$50v$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> Thank you very much for your help, BUT the "examples / tellafriend and
other
> examples"
> DONT read the values from the table and send them by mail, it only sends
the
> form fields from the previous page.
>
> Eddy,
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Eddy
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| Posted: 06/11/2001, 2:35 AM |
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Thanks, I will give it a try.
BTW, I never mentioned CodeCharge was bad, on the contrary it is an
excellent program like you are saying, I only wanted some help with a few
lines of code that I can not figure out myself. I am not a programmer and
that is the main reason why I bought the program. "If you know how to use MS
Excel or MS Access then you should be able to use CodeCharge" is one of the
slogans, but knowing PHP-MYSQL is slightly different. I am learning , and
with some help and examples I am sure CodeCharge can give me great results
in a matter of time. I learned a lot already in a couple of days, but with
that mail problem I am in some kind of stress-position with an everyday
calling client when his database will be able to do this.
Thanks again anyway for your help.
Eddy,
"Joachim Uersfeld" <uersfeld@pc-team.de> wrote in message
news:9g20t5$770$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> It's the same procedure. Rename the "Save" button in the form with the
shop
> basket to 'Checkout'. In 'Before Update' you can send the mail and execute
a
> sql squery to store the informations in another table. This is shown in
> tellafriend.
>
> Replace get_param("...") with $fld... Every field value is stored in a
> variable like '$fldmyTableField'. The var '$fldCustomerName' contains in
> CodeCharge the value of table field 'CustomerName', the var '$fldStreet'
> contains the value from table field 'Street' ...
>
> Joachim
>
> "Eddy" <eddy@intramanga.com> wrote in message
>news:9g1usq$50v$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> > Thank you very much for your help, BUT the "examples / tellafriend and
> other
> > examples"
> > DONT read the values from the table and send them by mail, it only sends
> the
> > form fields from the previous page.
> >
> > Eddy,
>
>
>
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Joachim Uersfeld
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| Posted: 06/11/2001, 3:12 AM |
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I understand. I think, the slogan 'If you know how to use MS Excel or MS
Access ..' is ok. I don't have problems with MS Excel, so long I use
functions like add numeric values. To add dates and times is a pain to me
....
Every software needs learning. Without CodeCharge we have to do much more
work - with complete solutions we never will learn, to work with CodeCharge.
And we have to paid much more then $ 149.
Joachim
"Eddy" <eddy@intramanga.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:9g23dc$add$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> Thanks, I will give it a try.
> BTW, I never mentioned CodeCharge was bad, on the contrary it is an
> excellent program like you are saying, I only wanted some help with a few
> lines of code that I can not figure out myself. I am not a programmer and
> that is the main reason why I bought the program. "If you know how to use
MS
> Excel or MS Access then you should be able to use CodeCharge" is one of
the
> slogans, but knowing PHP-MYSQL is slightly different. I am learning , and
> with some help and examples I am sure CodeCharge can give me great results
> in a matter of time. I learned a lot already in a couple of days, but with
> that mail problem I am in some kind of stress-position with an everyday
> calling client when his database will be able to do this.
> Thanks again anyway for your help.
> Eddy,
>
>
>
> "Joachim Uersfeld" <uersfeld@pc-team.de> wrote in message
>news:9g20t5$770$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> > It's the same procedure. Rename the "Save" button in the form with the
> shop
> > basket to 'Checkout'. In 'Before Update' you can send the mail and
execute
> a
> > sql squery to store the informations in another table. This is shown in
> > tellafriend.
> >
> > Replace get_param("...") with $fld... Every field value is stored in a
> > variable like '$fldmyTableField'. The var '$fldCustomerName' contains in
> > CodeCharge the value of table field 'CustomerName', the var
'$fldStreet'
> > contains the value from table field 'Street' ...
> >
> > Joachim
> >
> > "Eddy" <eddy@intramanga.com> wrote in message
> >news:9g1usq$50v$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> > > Thank you very much for your help, BUT the "examples / tellafriend and
> > other
> > > examples"
> > > DONT read the values from the table and send them by mail, it only
sends
> > the
> > > form fields from the previous page.
> > >
> > > Eddy,
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Steven Dowd
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| Posted: 06/11/2001, 5:04 AM |
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I think that a working example/project for this type of code, allthough
maybe similar to other codecharge supplied examples
should be added to a User Coded page Repository somewhere at the codecharge
site. It doesnt matter if its just a repaint of an existing example.
Maybe just simple single or two page projects, as examples of the
interactions between mail/mysql/progcode etc ,
Not everyone can re-invent the wheel everytime, if a single page shows the
whole example clearly thats it, doesnt have to be a full working
mini-website as per the codecharge examples in the php/perl/asp communities
there are hundreds of variations of exactly the same basic products.
it would be nice for people to contribute a sample of such code, to help
others and to maybe free the list of the same questions being asked again in
a few months tome, as a new 'eddy' gets hassled for a project, and a new
'Joachim' helps them out.
Steven
PS. who's is this website ,http://www.gotocode.com
is it a CC demo website , or a users Homepage thats showing examples with CC
backing .
>Joachim Uersfeld" <uersfeld@pc-team.de> wrote in message
news:9g25ho$cvc$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> I understand. I think, the slogan 'If you know how to use MS Excel or MS
> Access ..' is ok. I don't have problems with MS Excel, so long I use
> functions like add numeric values. To add dates and times is a pain to me
> ...
>
> "Eddy" <eddy@intramanga.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>news:9g23dc$add$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> > Thanks, I will give it a try.
> > BTW, I never mentioned CodeCharge was bad, on the contrary it is an
> > excellent program like you are saying, I only wanted some help with a
few
> > lines of code that I can not figure out myself. I am not a programmer
and
> > that is the main reason why I bought the program. "If you know how to
use
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Eddy
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| Posted: 06/11/2001, 12:28 PM |
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more insisting on support to get the line of code that extracts a grid from
a table, the button and sending mail I figured them out already trough the
examples, was negative :
SUPPORT:
Eddy,
at the moment, this is all we can offer by way of example. Indeed, it would
not take us long to create an example for you but the truth of the matter is
that there are other requests which are pending and in all fairness, we have
to deal with these on a first-come-first-serve basis. As Adam said, with
time, we shall get around to implementing your request but for the moment,
it has to wait on the queue.
Walker P.
CodeCharge Support
MY CLOSING ANSWER TO THAT IS :
Well, what can I say.
This issue was already asked several months ago on your discussion board. I
did not realize that writing a few lines of code that extracts a list from a
table was such a big deal for an expert programmer.
This makes CodeCharge quit useless for non-programmers, at least for me it
is for the time being.
I would remove the slogan "If you know how to use MS Excel or MS Access then
you should be able to use CodeCharge" from your homepage, because you still
need a high skill of PHP-MYSQL to send a grid by email.
So I just wasted $279 this week for nothing and I still have to pay a
programmer to find me a solution.
Thanks again for nothing.
Eddy
I AM JUST ASKING FOR A STUPID LINE OF CODE that extracts a grid from a table
and places it in a string.
Very disappointed I am looking for somebody who can write this piece of code
for a small fee.
Regards,
Eddy,
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Dr. Scott R. Senay
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| Posted: 06/11/2001, 8:11 PM |
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Look Eddy I have to say I DON'T like your attitude, I don't care if you
spent a grand you have NO RIGHT to bitch about the level of support. It is
IDIOTS like you that DRIVE up the cost of software! FOR YOUR Reference, the
original support reply suggested that you grab the support example and use
that to modify the bookstore example to your taste ALSO for your reference
the ANSWER IS IN there! Open the admCaseResponces, Response, After Insert
code and the answer is RIGHT THERE!!!!! On the subject of if you know how
to use Access, this is a reference to the overall simplicity and easy
associated with building applications that grab data from the database and
put it up on screen. IF HOWEVER YOU ARE NOT a Visual Basic PROGRAMMER you
will not be able to do what you are asking! READ and LEARN you arrogant,
greedy SOB... You signed your first missive to support with:
"Respectfully yours,"
and I submit that you attitude is anything but!!!!
PHP and MySQL are a POWERFUL SERVER side development environment on a par
with Oracle, NOT ACCESS... You are comparing apples to space shuttles here,
get your facts right and get over yourself! I TOO spent $279.00 for
CodeCharge and think I got THE BEST deal of the century so far! What I paid
for what I have received is incredible and STILL worth it at TWICE the
price, but stupid, GREEDY, arrogant, selfish fools like you are going to
cause the price to go up! To put things in perspective I've built
ENTERPRISE WIDE systems for fortune 10 banks in "C", Visual Basic
Enterprise, Visual Studio Enterprise (which I PAID full price for) SQL
Server, Oracle, and Sybase and CodeCharge is STILL the best of breed!!!!
So go home, LEARN TO READ, READ the support sample in the place I've
indicated and SHUT THE F*#%UP! If CodeCharge still isn't to your liking I'd
suggest you take up knitting or basket weaving instead but take your greedy,
selfish, arrogant DEMANDING attitude SOMEPLACE else. For $279 you can't
even BUY Access, let alone SQL Server or Visual Studio Enterprise!!!! It
took me LESS TIME to find the answer than it did for me to READ the entire
thread and write this message. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT to DEMAND anything from
YesSoftware OR THIS newsgroup!!!! Plenty of other people on this message
board have had questions and they have been polite and patient UNDERSTANDING
that YesSoftware doesn't OWE them a working solution. CodeCharge is a
DEVELOPMENT TOOL, not a set of completed solutions. I build completed
solutions for a living, and I charge 200 dollars an hour for the kind of
work you are asking for... If you want the answer DONE for you from
YesSoftware then you should be willing to pay at least six hours time at 200
dollars an hour for the answer, its only fair!
Scott...
To the rest of the group: Forgive me if my tone and prose is a bit strong,
but IDIOTS like Eddy are destroying the business for the rest of us!!!!
Just don't answer him anymore, short of GIVING him the completed answer the
WAY HE WANTS it he just isn't going to be happy, so just IGNORE him!!!!
Eddy <eddy@intramanga.com> wrote in message
news:9g365c$enq$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> more insisting on support to get the line of code that extracts a grid
from
> a table, the button and sending mail I figured them out already trough the
> examples, was negative :
>
> SUPPORT:
> Eddy,
> at the moment, this is all we can offer by way of example. Indeed, it
would
> not take us long to create an example for you but the truth of the matter
is
> that there are other requests which are pending and in all fairness, we
have
> to deal with these on a first-come-first-serve basis. As Adam said, with
> time, we shall get around to implementing your request but for the moment,
> it has to wait on the queue.
>
> Walker P.
> CodeCharge Support
>
>
> MY CLOSING ANSWER TO THAT IS :
> Well, what can I say.
> This issue was already asked several months ago on your discussion board.
I
> did not realize that writing a few lines of code that extracts a list from
a
> table was such a big deal for an expert programmer.
> This makes CodeCharge quit useless for non-programmers, at least for me it
> is for the time being.
> I would remove the slogan "If you know how to use MS Excel or MS Access
then
> you should be able to use CodeCharge" from your homepage, because you
still
> need a high skill of PHP-MYSQL to send a grid by email.
> So I just wasted $279 this week for nothing and I still have to pay a
> programmer to find me a solution.
> Thanks again for nothing.
> Eddy
>
>
> I AM JUST ASKING FOR A STUPID LINE OF CODE that extracts a grid from a
table
> and places it in a string.
> Very disappointed I am looking for somebody who can write this piece of
code
> for a small fee.
>
> Regards,
> Eddy,
>
>
>
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Joe Hayter
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| Posted: 06/11/2001, 9:28 PM |
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No Scott,
YOU are the jerk! You use the title Dr. but your childish ranting proves you
aren't worthy of it. It's people like you who will drive business away from
YesSoftware by discouraging people from using the newsgroups. New folks will
shy away from asking questions because of the way they are treated by things
like you, and because of it they won't have a positive experience with the
program. Their (bad) word of mouth advertising will cost YesSoftware money,
all because of people like you. I've seen several of your posts here and
they all stink!
Joe
"Dr. Scott R. Senay" <drsenay@conceptech.com> wrote in message
news:9g418l$62u$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> Look Eddy I have to say I DON'T like your attitude, I don't care if you
> spent a grand you have NO RIGHT to bitch about the level of support. It
is
> IDIOTS like you that DRIVE up the cost of software! FOR YOUR Reference,
the
> original support reply suggested that you grab the support example and use
> that to modify the bookstore example to your taste ALSO for your reference
> the ANSWER IS IN there! Open the admCaseResponces, Response, After Insert
> code and the answer is RIGHT THERE!!!!! On the subject of if you know how
> to use Access, this is a reference to the overall simplicity and easy
> associated with building applications that grab data from the database and
> put it up on screen. IF HOWEVER YOU ARE NOT a Visual Basic PROGRAMMER you
> will not be able to do what you are asking! READ and LEARN you arrogant,
> greedy SOB... You signed your first missive to support with:
>
> "Respectfully yours,"
>
> and I submit that you attitude is anything but!!!!
>
> PHP and MySQL are a POWERFUL SERVER side development environment on a par
> with Oracle, NOT ACCESS... You are comparing apples to space shuttles
here,
> get your facts right and get over yourself! I TOO spent $279.00 for
> CodeCharge and think I got THE BEST deal of the century so far! What I
paid
> for what I have received is incredible and STILL worth it at TWICE the
> price, but stupid, GREEDY, arrogant, selfish fools like you are going to
> cause the price to go up! To put things in perspective I've built
> ENTERPRISE WIDE systems for fortune 10 banks in "C", Visual Basic
> Enterprise, Visual Studio Enterprise (which I PAID full price for) SQL
> Server, Oracle, and Sybase and CodeCharge is STILL the best of breed!!!!
>
> So go home, LEARN TO READ, READ the support sample in the place I've
> indicated and SHUT THE F*#%UP! If CodeCharge still isn't to your liking
I'd
> suggest you take up knitting or basket weaving instead but take your
greedy,
> selfish, arrogant DEMANDING attitude SOMEPLACE else. For $279 you can't
> even BUY Access, let alone SQL Server or Visual Studio Enterprise!!!! It
> took me LESS TIME to find the answer than it did for me to READ the entire
> thread and write this message. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT to DEMAND anything from
> YesSoftware OR THIS newsgroup!!!! Plenty of other people on this message
> board have had questions and they have been polite and patient
UNDERSTANDING
> that YesSoftware doesn't OWE them a working solution. CodeCharge is a
> DEVELOPMENT TOOL, not a set of completed solutions. I build completed
> solutions for a living, and I charge 200 dollars an hour for the kind of
> work you are asking for... If you want the answer DONE for you from
> YesSoftware then you should be willing to pay at least six hours time at
200
> dollars an hour for the answer, its only fair!
>
> Scott...
>
> To the rest of the group: Forgive me if my tone and prose is a bit
strong,
> but IDIOTS like Eddy are destroying the business for the rest of us!!!!
> Just don't answer him anymore, short of GIVING him the completed answer
the
> WAY HE WANTS it he just isn't going to be happy, so just IGNORE him!!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Eddy <eddy@intramanga.com> wrote in message
>news:9g365c$enq$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> > more insisting on support to get the line of code that extracts a grid
> from
> > a table, the button and sending mail I figured them out already trough
the
> > examples, was negative :
> >
> > SUPPORT:
> > Eddy,
> > at the moment, this is all we can offer by way of example. Indeed, it
> would
> > not take us long to create an example for you but the truth of the
matter
> is
> > that there are other requests which are pending and in all fairness, we
> have
> > to deal with these on a first-come-first-serve basis. As Adam said, with
> > time, we shall get around to implementing your request but for the
moment,
> > it has to wait on the queue.
> >
> > Walker P.
> > CodeCharge Support
> >
> >
> > MY CLOSING ANSWER TO THAT IS :
> > Well, what can I say.
> > This issue was already asked several months ago on your discussion
board.
> I
> > did not realize that writing a few lines of code that extracts a list
from
> a
> > table was such a big deal for an expert programmer.
> > This makes CodeCharge quit useless for non-programmers, at least for me
it
> > is for the time being.
> > I would remove the slogan "If you know how to use MS Excel or MS Access
> then
> > you should be able to use CodeCharge" from your homepage, because you
> still
> > need a high skill of PHP-MYSQL to send a grid by email.
> > So I just wasted $279 this week for nothing and I still have to pay a
> > programmer to find me a solution.
> > Thanks again for nothing.
> > Eddy
> >
> >
> > I AM JUST ASKING FOR A STUPID LINE OF CODE that extracts a grid from a
> table
> > and places it in a string.
> > Very disappointed I am looking for somebody who can write this piece of
> code
> > for a small fee.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Eddy,
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Eddy
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| Posted: 06/12/2001, 12:50 AM |
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thanks,
"Dr. Scott R. Senay" <drsenay@conceptech.com> wrote in message
news:9g418l$62u$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> Look Eddy I have to say I DON'T like your attitude, I don't care if you
> spent a grand you have NO RIGHT to bitch about the level of support. It
is
> IDIOTS like you that DRIVE up the cost of software! FOR YOUR Reference,
the
> original support reply suggested that you grab the support example and use
> that to modify the bookstore example to your taste ALSO for your reference
> the ANSWER IS IN there! Open the admCaseResponces, Response, After Insert
> code and the answer is RIGHT THERE!!!!! On the subject of if you know how
> to use Access, this is a reference to the overall simplicity and easy
> associated with building applications that grab data from the database and
> put it up on screen. IF HOWEVER YOU ARE NOT a Visual Basic PROGRAMMER you
> will not be able to do what you are asking! READ and LEARN you arrogant,
> greedy SOB... You signed your first missive to support with:
>
> "Respectfully yours,"
>
> and I submit that you attitude is anything but!!!!
>
> PHP and MySQL are a POWERFUL SERVER side development environment on a par
> with Oracle, NOT ACCESS... You are comparing apples to space shuttles
here,
> get your facts right and get over yourself! I TOO spent $279.00 for
> CodeCharge and think I got THE BEST deal of the century so far! What I
paid
> for what I have received is incredible and STILL worth it at TWICE the
> price, but stupid, GREEDY, arrogant, selfish fools like you are going to
> cause the price to go up! To put things in perspective I've built
> ENTERPRISE WIDE systems for fortune 10 banks in "C", Visual Basic
> Enterprise, Visual Studio Enterprise (which I PAID full price for) SQL
> Server, Oracle, and Sybase and CodeCharge is STILL the best of breed!!!!
>
> So go home, LEARN TO READ, READ the support sample in the place I've
> indicated and SHUT THE F*#%UP! If CodeCharge still isn't to your liking
I'd
> suggest you take up knitting or basket weaving instead but take your
greedy,
> selfish, arrogant DEMANDING attitude SOMEPLACE else. For $279 you can't
> even BUY Access, let alone SQL Server or Visual Studio Enterprise!!!! It
> took me LESS TIME to find the answer than it did for me to READ the entire
> thread and write this message. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT to DEMAND anything from
> YesSoftware OR THIS newsgroup!!!! Plenty of other people on this message
> board have had questions and they have been polite and patient
UNDERSTANDING
> that YesSoftware doesn't OWE them a working solution. CodeCharge is a
> DEVELOPMENT TOOL, not a set of completed solutions. I build completed
> solutions for a living, and I charge 200 dollars an hour for the kind of
> work you are asking for... If you want the answer DONE for you from
> YesSoftware then you should be willing to pay at least six hours time at
200
> dollars an hour for the answer, its only fair!
>
> Scott...
>
> To the rest of the group: Forgive me if my tone and prose is a bit
strong,
> but IDIOTS like Eddy are destroying the business for the rest of us!!!!
> Just don't answer him anymore, short of GIVING him the completed answer
the
> WAY HE WANTS it he just isn't going to be happy, so just IGNORE him!!!!
>
>
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Steven Dowd
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| Posted: 06/12/2001, 3:09 AM |
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Scott , you seem to have honoured the CC news group with its first active
Flame posting, well done, congratulations,
this newsgroup has been extremely helpfull quiet and informative, you have
successfully broken the mold.
Eddy isn't alone in not being able to totally understand CC even with the
examples provided.
It isnt enough to be a php/mysql or code guru if you cannot find where in CC
to add your code, Surely even you
Scott must have noticed that the main reason people post to the group , isnt
usually that they cannot code at all, its
that they cannot figure where the hell to place the code in CC.
If you know the answer to help eddy out ,do just that help the guy out, your
most likely not a Dr of medicine, their
normally concientious, courtious and show willingness to help and sympathy
with an individual thats stressed.
Please do not answer this post expecting a reply to the news group from me,
if you feel like flameing me do it direct by e-mail.
I am un-decided whether to add your details to my ignore post and delete
rules.
but maybe you can prove me wrong ?
Eddy sorry I cannot help, I can help in straight php code examples , but not
from within CC, I am having similar problems
figureing where, when , and behind what options the added codes should be
placed.
I have found though that doing a local publish of ALL the examples in CC has
helped .
Steven
"Dr. Scott R. Senay" <drsenay@conceptech.com> wrote in message
news:9g418l$62u$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> Look Eddy I have to say I DON'T like your attitude, I don't care if you
> spent a grand you have NO RIGHT to bitch about the level of support. It
is
> IDIOTS like you that DRIVE up the cost of software! FOR YOUR Reference,
the
> original support reply suggested that you grab the support example and use
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Eddy
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| Posted: 06/12/2001, 3:55 AM |
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Hi Steven,
> Eddy sorry I cannot help, I can help in straight php code examples , but
not
> from within CC, I am having similar problems
> figureing where, when , and behind what options the added codes should be
> placed.
No problem, I guess everything is new here for most people.
> I have found though that doing a local publish of ALL the examples in CC
has
> helped .
> Steven
>
I did more or less the same, and found also a lot. I have my checkout button
and am able to send strings or fields from one single record by mail, but
what I cannot figure out is how to extract in php the selected rows and
place them into one string.
I guess time and effort will bring a solution to this.
If anybody feels IŽve been to hard on support, my apologize for that, but I
am under my clients pressure and I am only asking for a few lines of code.
Anyway I don't think I is worth being insulted for that and I just try to
move on.
Thanks for your reply,
Eddy
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Senti
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| Posted: 06/12/2001, 5:50 AM |
|
My thought was that discussion and/or newsgroups had as purpose ==>
discussions.
Does this means that, if you are not agree with someone's opinion, you have
to insult him ???
If that is what you think, than you are the one that should be banned from
ALL the newsgroups on this earth.
Discussions and disagreements are part of daily life, insulting is not, or
should not be part of it.
That is my point of view.
If you reply to somebody try to do it without insulting and without using
too much capitals to save you some respect.
Senti R.
"Dr. Scott R. Senay" <drsenay@conceptech.com> wrote in message
news:9g418l$62u$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> Look Eddy I have to say I DON'T like your attitude, I don't care if you
> spent a grand you have NO RIGHT to bitch about the level of support. It
is
> IDIOTS like you that DRIVE up the cost of software! FOR YOUR Reference,
the
> original support reply suggested that you grab the support example and use
> that to modify the bookstore example to your taste ALSO for your reference
> the ANSWER IS IN there! Open the admCaseResponces, Response, After Insert
> code and the answer is RIGHT THERE!!!!! On the subject of if you know how
> to use Access, this is a reference to the overall simplicity and easy
> associated with building applications that grab data from the database and
> put it up on screen. IF HOWEVER YOU ARE NOT a Visual Basic PROGRAMMER you
> will not be able to do what you are asking! READ and LEARN you arrogant,
> greedy SOB... You signed your first missive to support with:
>
> "Respectfully yours,"
>
> and I submit that you attitude is anything but!!!!
>
> PHP and MySQL are a POWERFUL SERVER side development environment on a par
> with Oracle, NOT ACCESS... You are comparing apples to space shuttles
here,
> get your facts right and get over yourself! I TOO spent $279.00 for
> CodeCharge and think I got THE BEST deal of the century so far! What I
paid
> for what I have received is incredible and STILL worth it at TWICE the
> price, but stupid, GREEDY, arrogant, selfish fools like you are going to
> cause the price to go up! To put things in perspective I've built
> ENTERPRISE WIDE systems for fortune 10 banks in "C", Visual Basic
> Enterprise, Visual Studio Enterprise (which I PAID full price for) SQL
> Server, Oracle, and Sybase and CodeCharge is STILL the best of breed!!!!
>
> So go home, LEARN TO READ, READ the support sample in the place I've
> indicated and SHUT THE F*#%UP! If CodeCharge still isn't to your liking
I'd
> suggest you take up knitting or basket weaving instead but take your
greedy,
> selfish, arrogant DEMANDING attitude SOMEPLACE else. For $279 you can't
> even BUY Access, let alone SQL Server or Visual Studio Enterprise!!!! It
> took me LESS TIME to find the answer than it did for me to READ the entire
> thread and write this message. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT to DEMAND anything from
> YesSoftware OR THIS newsgroup!!!! Plenty of other people on this message
> board have had questions and they have been polite and patient
UNDERSTANDING
> that YesSoftware doesn't OWE them a working solution. CodeCharge is a
> DEVELOPMENT TOOL, not a set of completed solutions. I build completed
> solutions for a living, and I charge 200 dollars an hour for the kind of
> work you are asking for... If you want the answer DONE for you from
> YesSoftware then you should be willing to pay at least six hours time at
200
> dollars an hour for the answer, its only fair!
>
> Scott...
>
> To the rest of the group: Forgive me if my tone and prose is a bit
strong,
> but IDIOTS like Eddy are destroying the business for the rest of us!!!!
> Just don't answer him anymore, short of GIVING him the completed answer
the
> WAY HE WANTS it he just isn't going to be happy, so just IGNORE him!!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Eddy <eddy@intramanga.com> wrote in message
>news:9g365c$enq$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> > more insisting on support to get the line of code that extracts a grid
> from
> > a table, the button and sending mail I figured them out already trough
the
> > examples, was negative :
> >
> > SUPPORT:
> > Eddy,
> > at the moment, this is all we can offer by way of example. Indeed, it
> would
> > not take us long to create an example for you but the truth of the
matter
> is
> > that there are other requests which are pending and in all fairness, we
> have
> > to deal with these on a first-come-first-serve basis. As Adam said, with
> > time, we shall get around to implementing your request but for the
moment,
> > it has to wait on the queue.
> >
> > Walker P.
> > CodeCharge Support
> >
> >
> > MY CLOSING ANSWER TO THAT IS :
> > Well, what can I say.
> > This issue was already asked several months ago on your discussion
board.
> I
> > did not realize that writing a few lines of code that extracts a list
from
> a
> > table was such a big deal for an expert programmer.
> > This makes CodeCharge quit useless for non-programmers, at least for me
it
> > is for the time being.
> > I would remove the slogan "If you know how to use MS Excel or MS Access
> then
> > you should be able to use CodeCharge" from your homepage, because you
> still
> > need a high skill of PHP-MYSQL to send a grid by email.
> > So I just wasted $279 this week for nothing and I still have to pay a
> > programmer to find me a solution.
> > Thanks again for nothing.
> > Eddy
> >
> >
> > I AM JUST ASKING FOR A STUPID LINE OF CODE that extracts a grid from a
> table
> > and places it in a string.
> > Very disappointed I am looking for somebody who can write this piece of
> code
> > for a small fee.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Eddy,
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Dr. Scott R. Senay
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| Posted: 06/12/2001, 2:53 PM |
|
Okay one more run at this;
First a disclaimer:
I read through ALL of Eddy's posts and it appeared to ME that he was
expecting, DEMANDING an answer in the form of completed code. Subsequent
missives indicated he was working from client pressure so he may have been a
touch more pushy and demanding than he normally may have been. I wrote what
I did because of said perspective and my subsequent outrage, after all
CodeCharge is a fantastic development tool and Yes has gone SO FAR above and
beyond the call that I was offended by his demands, not his questions. I
could have, and in fact in another thread DID point someone else at the
correct answer which incidentally the folks at Yes suggested to Eddy in his
FIRST missive.
Second:
The answer is: Open the support example, Open the admCaseResponses page,
Open the Response form, Click on the form properties, click on Events, click
on AFTER INSERT and a DETAILED example (which I've used in other CC
programs) that directly answers Eddy's question is right there.
So that's it, I was in my own odd way defending all the rest of us who
respect and appreciate the BARGAIN that CC is at $279 and trying in language
STRONG enough to get through to him that if he'd have read the first message
from CC support he'd have had his answer, which is why I went off like I
did. They suggested he look at the support example, they just didn't lay it
out to the click like I did above.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
(P.S. As to the "Dr." part, yes I have a PH.D that I worked LONG and hard
to get and I happen to have put that into my mail program somewhere, I'll go
fix it if offends...)
Senti <senti@lamanga.org> wrote in message
news:9g536q$54l$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> My thought was that discussion and/or newsgroups had as purpose ==>
> discussions.
> Does this means that, if you are not agree with someone's opinion, you
have
> to insult him ???
> If that is what you think, than you are the one that should be banned from
> ALL the newsgroups on this earth.
> Discussions and disagreements are part of daily life, insulting is not, or
> should not be part of it.
> That is my point of view.
> If you reply to somebody try to do it without insulting and without using
> too much capitals to save you some respect.
>
> Senti R.
>
>
> "Dr. Scott R. Senay" <drsenay@conceptech.com> wrote in message
>news:9g418l$62u$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> > Look Eddy I have to say I DON'T like your attitude, I don't care if you
> > spent a grand you have NO RIGHT to bitch about the level of support. It
> is
> > IDIOTS like you that DRIVE up the cost of software! FOR YOUR Reference,
> the
> > original support reply suggested that you grab the support example and
use
> > that to modify the bookstore example to your taste ALSO for your
reference
> > the ANSWER IS IN there! Open the admCaseResponces, Response, After
Insert
> > code and the answer is RIGHT THERE!!!!! On the subject of if you know
how
> > to use Access, this is a reference to the overall simplicity and easy
> > associated with building applications that grab data from the database
and
> > put it up on screen. IF HOWEVER YOU ARE NOT a Visual Basic PROGRAMMER
you
> > will not be able to do what you are asking! READ and LEARN you
arrogant,
> > greedy SOB... You signed your first missive to support with:
> >
> > "Respectfully yours,"
> >
> > and I submit that you attitude is anything but!!!!
> >
> > PHP and MySQL are a POWERFUL SERVER side development environment on a
par
> > with Oracle, NOT ACCESS... You are comparing apples to space shuttles
> here,
> > get your facts right and get over yourself! I TOO spent $279.00 for
> > CodeCharge and think I got THE BEST deal of the century so far! What I
> paid
> > for what I have received is incredible and STILL worth it at TWICE the
> > price, but stupid, GREEDY, arrogant, selfish fools like you are going to
> > cause the price to go up! To put things in perspective I've built
> > ENTERPRISE WIDE systems for fortune 10 banks in "C", Visual Basic
> > Enterprise, Visual Studio Enterprise (which I PAID full price for) SQL
> > Server, Oracle, and Sybase and CodeCharge is STILL the best of breed!!!!
> >
> > So go home, LEARN TO READ, READ the support sample in the place I've
> > indicated and SHUT THE F*#%UP! If CodeCharge still isn't to your liking
> I'd
> > suggest you take up knitting or basket weaving instead but take your
> greedy,
> > selfish, arrogant DEMANDING attitude SOMEPLACE else. For $279 you can't
> > even BUY Access, let alone SQL Server or Visual Studio Enterprise!!!!
It
> > took me LESS TIME to find the answer than it did for me to READ the
entire
> > thread and write this message. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT to DEMAND anything
from
> > YesSoftware OR THIS newsgroup!!!! Plenty of other people on this
message
> > board have had questions and they have been polite and patient
> UNDERSTANDING
> > that YesSoftware doesn't OWE them a working solution. CodeCharge is a
> > DEVELOPMENT TOOL, not a set of completed solutions. I build completed
> > solutions for a living, and I charge 200 dollars an hour for the kind of
> > work you are asking for... If you want the answer DONE for you from
> > YesSoftware then you should be willing to pay at least six hours time at
> 200
> > dollars an hour for the answer, its only fair!
> >
> > Scott...
> >
> > To the rest of the group: Forgive me if my tone and prose is a bit
> strong,
> > but IDIOTS like Eddy are destroying the business for the rest of us!!!!
> > Just don't answer him anymore, short of GIVING him the completed answer
> the
> > WAY HE WANTS it he just isn't going to be happy, so just IGNORE him!!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Eddy <eddy@intramanga.com> wrote in message
> >news:9g365c$enq$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> > > more insisting on support to get the line of code that extracts a grid
> > from
> > > a table, the button and sending mail I figured them out already trough
> the
> > > examples, was negative :
> > >
> > > SUPPORT:
> > > Eddy,
> > > at the moment, this is all we can offer by way of example. Indeed, it
> > would
> > > not take us long to create an example for you but the truth of the
> matter
> > is
> > > that there are other requests which are pending and in all fairness,
we
> > have
> > > to deal with these on a first-come-first-serve basis. As Adam said,
with
> > > time, we shall get around to implementing your request but for the
> moment,
> > > it has to wait on the queue.
> > >
> > > Walker P.
> > > CodeCharge Support
> > >
> > >
> > > MY CLOSING ANSWER TO THAT IS :
> > > Well, what can I say.
> > > This issue was already asked several months ago on your discussion
> board.
> > I
> > > did not realize that writing a few lines of code that extracts a list
> from
> > a
> > > table was such a big deal for an expert programmer.
> > > This makes CodeCharge quit useless for non-programmers, at least for
me
> it
> > > is for the time being.
> > > I would remove the slogan "If you know how to use MS Excel or MS
Access
> > then
> > > you should be able to use CodeCharge" from your homepage, because you
> > still
> > > need a high skill of PHP-MYSQL to send a grid by email.
> > > So I just wasted $279 this week for nothing and I still have to pay a
> > > programmer to find me a solution.
> > > Thanks again for nothing.
> > > Eddy
> > >
> > >
> > > I AM JUST ASKING FOR A STUPID LINE OF CODE that extracts a grid from a
> > table
> > > and places it in a string.
> > > Very disappointed I am looking for somebody who can write this piece
of
> > code
> > > for a small fee.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Eddy,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Senti
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| Posted: 06/12/2001, 3:50 PM |
|
"Dr. Scott R. Senay" <drsenay@conceptech.com> wrote in message
news:9g6312$306$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> Okay one more run at this;
>
> First a disclaimer:
>
> I read through ALL of Eddy's posts and it appeared to ME that he was
> expecting, DEMANDING an answer in the form of completed code. Subsequent
> missives indicated he was working from client pressure so he may have been
a
> touch more pushy and demanding than he normally may have been. I wrote
what
> I did because of said perspective and my subsequent outrage, after all
> CodeCharge is a fantastic development tool and Yes has gone SO FAR above
and
> beyond the call that I was offended by his demands, not his questions. I
> could have, and in fact in another thread DID point someone else at the
> correct answer which incidentally the folks at Yes suggested to Eddy in
his
> FIRST missive.
>
> Second:
>
> The answer is: Open the support example, Open the admCaseResponses page,
> Open the Response form, Click on the form properties, click on Events,
click
> on AFTER INSERT and a DETAILED example (which I've used in other CC
> programs) that directly answers Eddy's question is right there.
>
> So that's it, I was in my own odd way defending all the rest of us who
> respect and appreciate the BARGAIN that CC is at $279 and trying in
language
> STRONG enough to get through to him that if he'd have read the first
message
> from CC support he'd have had his answer, which is why I went off like I
> did. They suggested he look at the support example, they just didn't lay
it
> out to the click like I did above.
>
> That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
>
> (P.S. As to the "Dr." part, yes I have a PH.D that I worked LONG and hard
> to get and I happen to have put that into my mail program somewhere, I'll
go
> fix it if offends...)
>
Okee, you stick with it, but wrong you are.
You think CodeCharge is a fantastic development tool , Eddy maybe not. He is
not even saying that, he is just mad because support was not very helpful.
You think that is reason enough to insult him like that ...
I am 40 years old, en sometimes I also put pressure on people to get things
done, but , NEVER NEVER in my life, I have been insulted by a person like
you picked on him.
I think you should not only apologize to him, but certainly to the whole
group here and specially to the people at YES.
Any potentially codecharge buyer will have second thoughts after reading
your replies to people.
Case Closed on my behalf
Senti R
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Rob
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| Posted: 06/12/2001, 4:05 PM |
|
I agree with you Joe. This "Dr" thing is really something "stink".
Rob
"Joe Hayter" <joe@eye10.com> wrote in message
news:9g45q2$9ju$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> No Scott,
>
> YOU are the jerk! You use the title Dr. but your childish ranting proves
you
> aren't worthy of it. It's people like you who will drive business away
from
> YesSoftware by discouraging people from using the newsgroups. New folks
will
> shy away from asking questions because of the way they are treated by
things
> like you, and because of it they won't have a positive experience with the
> program. Their (bad) word of mouth advertising will cost YesSoftware
money,
> all because of people like you. I've seen several of your posts here and
> they all stink!
>
> Joe
>
> "Dr. Scott R. Senay" <drsenay@conceptech.com> wrote in message
>news:9g418l$62u$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> > Look Eddy I have to say I DON'T like your attitude, I don't care if you
> > spent a grand you have NO RIGHT to bitch about the level of support. It
> is
> > IDIOTS like you that DRIVE up the cost of software! FOR YOUR Reference,
> the
> > original support reply suggested that you grab the support example and
use
> > that to modify the bookstore example to your taste ALSO for your
reference
> > the ANSWER IS IN there! Open the admCaseResponces, Response, After
Insert
> > code and the answer is RIGHT THERE!!!!! On the subject of if you know
how
> > to use Access, this is a reference to the overall simplicity and easy
> > associated with building applications that grab data from the database
and
> > put it up on screen. IF HOWEVER YOU ARE NOT a Visual Basic PROGRAMMER
you
> > will not be able to do what you are asking! READ and LEARN you
arrogant,
> > greedy SOB... You signed your first missive to support with:
> >
> > "Respectfully yours,"
> >
> > and I submit that you attitude is anything but!!!!
> >
> > PHP and MySQL are a POWERFUL SERVER side development environment on a
par
> > with Oracle, NOT ACCESS... You are comparing apples to space shuttles
> here,
> > get your facts right and get over yourself! I TOO spent $279.00 for
> > CodeCharge and think I got THE BEST deal of the century so far! What I
> paid
> > for what I have received is incredible and STILL worth it at TWICE the
> > price, but stupid, GREEDY, arrogant, selfish fools like you are going to
> > cause the price to go up! To put things in perspective I've built
> > ENTERPRISE WIDE systems for fortune 10 banks in "C", Visual Basic
> > Enterprise, Visual Studio Enterprise (which I PAID full price for) SQL
> > Server, Oracle, and Sybase and CodeCharge is STILL the best of breed!!!!
> >
> > So go home, LEARN TO READ, READ the support sample in the place I've
> > indicated and SHUT THE F*#%UP! If CodeCharge still isn't to your liking
> I'd
> > suggest you take up knitting or basket weaving instead but take your
> greedy,
> > selfish, arrogant DEMANDING attitude SOMEPLACE else. For $279 you can't
> > even BUY Access, let alone SQL Server or Visual Studio Enterprise!!!!
It
> > took me LESS TIME to find the answer than it did for me to READ the
entire
> > thread and write this message. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT to DEMAND anything
from
> > YesSoftware OR THIS newsgroup!!!! Plenty of other people on this
message
> > board have had questions and they have been polite and patient
> UNDERSTANDING
> > that YesSoftware doesn't OWE them a working solution. CodeCharge is a
> > DEVELOPMENT TOOL, not a set of completed solutions. I build completed
> > solutions for a living, and I charge 200 dollars an hour for the kind of
> > work you are asking for... If you want the answer DONE for you from
> > YesSoftware then you should be willing to pay at least six hours time at
> 200
> > dollars an hour for the answer, its only fair!
> >
> > Scott...
> >
> > To the rest of the group: Forgive me if my tone and prose is a bit
> strong,
> > but IDIOTS like Eddy are destroying the business for the rest of us!!!!
> > Just don't answer him anymore, short of GIVING him the completed answer
> the
> > WAY HE WANTS it he just isn't going to be happy, so just IGNORE him!!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Eddy <eddy@intramanga.com> wrote in message
> >news:9g365c$enq$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> > > more insisting on support to get the line of code that extracts a grid
> > from
> > > a table, the button and sending mail I figured them out already trough
> the
> > > examples, was negative :
> > >
> > > SUPPORT:
> > > Eddy,
> > > at the moment, this is all we can offer by way of example. Indeed, it
> > would
> > > not take us long to create an example for you but the truth of the
> matter
> > is
> > > that there are other requests which are pending and in all fairness,
we
> > have
> > > to deal with these on a first-come-first-serve basis. As Adam said,
with
> > > time, we shall get around to implementing your request but for the
> moment,
> > > it has to wait on the queue.
> > >
> > > Walker P.
> > > CodeCharge Support
> > >
> > >
> > > MY CLOSING ANSWER TO THAT IS :
> > > Well, what can I say.
> > > This issue was already asked several months ago on your discussion
> board.
> > I
> > > did not realize that writing a few lines of code that extracts a list
> from
> > a
> > > table was such a big deal for an expert programmer.
> > > This makes CodeCharge quit useless for non-programmers, at least for
me
> it
> > > is for the time being.
> > > I would remove the slogan "If you know how to use MS Excel or MS
Access
> > then
> > > you should be able to use CodeCharge" from your homepage, because you
> > still
> > > need a high skill of PHP-MYSQL to send a grid by email.
> > > So I just wasted $279 this week for nothing and I still have to pay a
> > > programmer to find me a solution.
> > > Thanks again for nothing.
> > > Eddy
> > >
> > >
> > > I AM JUST ASKING FOR A STUPID LINE OF CODE that extracts a grid from a
> > table
> > > and places it in a string.
> > > Very disappointed I am looking for somebody who can write this piece
of
> > code
> > > for a small fee.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Eddy,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Dr. Scott R. Senay
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| Posted: 06/12/2001, 5:29 PM |
|
Yeah well you have only read SOME of my replies then haven't you... Eddy
has regardless of anything else failed to READ, which is a disease that is
destroying this country because people either can't OR WORSE WILL NOT read.
I've fired people for what and how Eddy's done things, and while my prose
would I'm certain have gotten ME fired by you (thought I'd say that before
you did) under that kind of situation you can rest easy that based on what
you've read, and how you've responded I'd never have worked for you anyway.
If HOWEVER you look at the time, and details I've invested in one of my
OTHER responses (attached below) I not only have the skills and
understanding but HAD ALREADY done what support originally suggested to
Eddy. Since he claims in one of his other posts to have background then he
could have done the work himself. I submit he WANTED an answer and was
demanding it, not a pointer to the answer, ergo his crime was in being to
lazy to read...
It comes down to this, clearly and carefully documenting even just an answer
can be a time consuming and thus billable endeavor, if Eddy had READ the
missives support sent him he'd have been able to find the following
information in the same place I found it and have subsequently shared with
another user who was significantly less demanding and more respectful of the
fine folks at Yes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------
Greetings Frank,
One further note that I though might help, CodeCharge uses a globally
available subroutine called of all things "mail" which takes arguments to
allow you to quickly and simply send all kinds of e-mail to anyone you wish.
The admCaseResponse page makes use of it in the Response form on the After
Insert event... In that code they make repeated use of the mail function to
send mail taking information both from the form, and by looking things up in
a table. If you have any trouble just drop me a note...
Here is a quick example that I've adapted from some CodeCharge samples...
When a user forgets his password he/she can simply provide his/her email
address and the system mails it to him/her after looking it up in the
database:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------
$pwd = dlookup("pmembers","member_password","email='$fldemail'");
mail($fldemail,"Per request, enclosed is your password","\n\nYour password
is $pwd", "From:youremail@yourname.com");
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------
Breaking out that code above the following things can easily be seen:
We start by assigning the result of a table lookup to the local variable
$pwd. We are passing in a value from the page/form of "$fldemail", this is
being passed to the function "dlookup()" as a search criteria on the table
"pmembers" in short that function call constructs a SQL statement along the
lines of:
SELECT member_password FROM pmembers WHERE email="$fldemail"
and then returns that result assigning it to the local variable $pwd.
Next, the "mail()" function takes several arguments and sends out an email:
As shown above we are sending:
1.) The email address we are sending the password to,
2.) A subject line of "Per request, enclosed is your password",
3.) Message text that includes two blank lines and then the line "Your
password is $pwd",
4.) And finally the email address that the message is coming from which
the system uses as the FROM address.
And THAT as they say is that...
Scott...
P.S. This is what Eddy would have found and been able ot use if he'd READ
the first email or two from support. I got the impression from his posts
that he wanted them to wire the whole thing up for him...
____________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________
So Senti maybe you should RE-READ ALL of the thread, and everything Eddy
wrote and the tone used. If Eddy were one of my customers and he sent me
email like that I'd have long since returned is money, taken back what I'd
sold him and encouraged him to shop elsewhere. Someone can't even read the
mail I send because he expects me to send a working sample, I don't bother
with him either. I've seen the folks at CodeCharge bend over backwards to
help, but frankly it is no real surprise based on his tone alone that they
DIDN'T... I mean really, they have GIVEN AWAY in the form of their samples
a couple million dollars of billable work, and yet he EXPECTS more? They
have done a brilliant, amazing job and yet he wants more? Were does one
draw the line, having been, time and again in exactly the same shoes I was
offended.
In another post Eddy "clarified things" by explaining that he was under
pressure from a customer to deliver and that was why he came on so strong,
well some may take that as an excuse, but frankly I find it a touch weak for
a couple of important reasons.
1.) If he doesn't understand the product well enough, or is under so much
pressure that he expects something for nothing than he should NOT be using
the tool for production work. He's TAKING money from customers for
deliverables based on a Development Tool he doesn't fully understand and
isn't willing to learn? I take back some of what I said, he's not arrogant,
greedy and etc, HE'S looking to go out of business and he's stealing...
2.) If he's under that much pressure that he can't (or won't) READ, then
he (as I pointed out in a previous missive) should find another line of
work. When taking money one must ALWAYS work within or somewhat below ones
limitations. One should ALWAYS as a matter of business course manage
expectation so that Customers DON'T put you under so much pressure that you
have to demand something from one of your suppliers: "Bad planning on your
part DOES NOT constitute and emergency on my part!" You should also ALWAYS
expect to pay for what you want yesterday and not get arrogant or aggressive
with suppliers when you want more from them. "You catch more flies with
honey than you do with vinegar!"
Scott...
Senti <senti@lamanga.org> wrote in message
news:9g66bt$5ts$1@mail.tankhill.com...
>
> "Dr. Scott R. Senay" <drsenay@conceptech.com> wrote in message
>news:9g6312$306$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> > Okay one more run at this;
> >
> > First a disclaimer:
> >
> > I read through ALL of Eddy's posts and it appeared to ME that he was
> > expecting, DEMANDING an answer in the form of completed code.
Subsequent
> > missives indicated he was working from client pressure so he may have
been
> a
> > touch more pushy and demanding than he normally may have been. I wrote
> what
> > I did because of said perspective and my subsequent outrage, after all
> > CodeCharge is a fantastic development tool and Yes has gone SO FAR above
> and
> > beyond the call that I was offended by his demands, not his questions.
I
> > could have, and in fact in another thread DID point someone else at the
> > correct answer which incidentally the folks at Yes suggested to Eddy in
> his
> > FIRST missive.
> >
> > Second:
> >
> > The answer is: Open the support example, Open the admCaseResponses
page,
> > Open the Response form, Click on the form properties, click on Events,
> click
> > on AFTER INSERT and a DETAILED example (which I've used in other CC
> > programs) that directly answers Eddy's question is right there.
> >
> > So that's it, I was in my own odd way defending all the rest of us who
> > respect and appreciate the BARGAIN that CC is at $279 and trying in
> language
> > STRONG enough to get through to him that if he'd have read the first
> message
> > from CC support he'd have had his answer, which is why I went off like I
> > did. They suggested he look at the support example, they just didn't
lay
> it
> > out to the click like I did above.
> >
> > That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
> >
> > (P.S. As to the "Dr." part, yes I have a PH.D that I worked LONG and
hard
> > to get and I happen to have put that into my mail program somewhere,
I'll
> go
> > fix it if offends...)
> >
>
> Okee, you stick with it, but wrong you are.
> You think CodeCharge is a fantastic development tool , Eddy maybe not. He
is
> not even saying that, he is just mad because support was not very helpful.
> You think that is reason enough to insult him like that ...
> I am 40 years old, en sometimes I also put pressure on people to get
things
> done, but , NEVER NEVER in my life, I have been insulted by a person like
> you picked on him.
> I think you should not only apologize to him, but certainly to the whole
> group here and specially to the people at YES.
> Any potentially codecharge buyer will have second thoughts after reading
> your replies to people.
>
> Case Closed on my behalf
> Senti R
>
>
>
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Steven Dowd
|
| Posted: 06/12/2001, 5:47 PM |
|
Please drop it Scott , if your able enough to run your own business, hire
and fire, and and resourcefull enough to find your way round CC
unchallenged, please 'find the grace' to know when to quit.
Steven
"Dr. Scott R. Senay" <drsenay@conceptech.com> wrote in message
news:9g6c4m$aku$1@mail.tankhill.com...
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Jeff Stuart
|
| Posted: 06/13/2001, 4:07 PM |
|
OH Christ... here we go again. Ok Scott (and anyone else IF there is anyone
else who feels like flaming) please READ my post and take it to heart.
(FYI, this post is a DIRECT copy that I made to a online BBS that has
members ranging in age from about 13 years old to 40+. It was titled
Message Board Etiquette.)
Folks, let's all try and be mature about this stuff. If you're gonna flame,
step back, DO NOT POST, and wait until you've calmed down enough to post
YOUR argument in a mature and POSTIVE fashion! You will be held in a MUCH
higher regard AND your argument WILL be given MORE credit than it would get
if you simply flame someone! Think, would you say what you're gonna post to
this person's face? If not, then DON'T POST IT!
It will do you a LOT of good to remember this!
--
Jeff Stuart
jstuart@neo.rr.com
"Dr. Scott R. Senay" <drsenay@conceptech.com> wrote in message
news:9g6c4m$aku$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> Yeah well you have only read SOME of my replies then haven't you... Eddy
> has regardless of anything else failed to READ, which is a disease that is
> destroying this country because people either can't OR WORSE WILL NOT
read.
> I've fired people for what and how Eddy's done things, and while my prose
> would I'm certain have gotten ME fired by you (thought I'd say that before
> you did) under that kind of situation you can rest easy that based on what
> you've read, and how you've responded I'd never have worked for you
anyway.
>
> If HOWEVER you look at the time, and details I've invested in one of my
> OTHER responses (attached below) I not only have the skills and
> understanding but HAD ALREADY done what support originally suggested to
> Eddy. Since he claims in one of his other posts to have background then
he
> could have done the work himself. I submit he WANTED an answer and was
> demanding it, not a pointer to the answer, ergo his crime was in being to
> lazy to read...
>
> It comes down to this, clearly and carefully documenting even just an
answer
> can be a time consuming and thus billable endeavor, if Eddy had READ the
> missives support sent him he'd have been able to find the following
> information in the same place I found it and have subsequently shared with
> another user who was significantly less demanding and more respectful of
the
> fine folks at Yes.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> ----------
> Greetings Frank,
>
> One further note that I though might help, CodeCharge uses a globally
> available subroutine called of all things "mail" which takes arguments to
> allow you to quickly and simply send all kinds of e-mail to anyone you
wish.
> The admCaseResponse page makes use of it in the Response form on the After
> Insert event... In that code they make repeated use of the mail function
to
> send mail taking information both from the form, and by looking things up
in
> a table. If you have any trouble just drop me a note...
>
> Here is a quick example that I've adapted from some CodeCharge samples...
> When a user forgets his password he/she can simply provide his/her email
> address and the system mails it to him/her after looking it up in the
> database:
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> --------------------------------------------------
> $pwd = dlookup("pmembers","member_password","email='$fldemail'");
> mail($fldemail,"Per request, enclosed is your password","\n\nYour password
> is $pwd", "From:youremail@yourname.com");
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> Breaking out that code above the following things can easily be seen:
>
> We start by assigning the result of a table lookup to the local variable
> $pwd. We are passing in a value from the page/form of "$fldemail", this
is
> being passed to the function "dlookup()" as a search criteria on the table
> "pmembers" in short that function call constructs a SQL statement along
the
> lines of:
>
> SELECT member_password FROM pmembers WHERE email="$fldemail"
>
> and then returns that result assigning it to the local variable $pwd.
>
> Next, the "mail()" function takes several arguments and sends out an
email:
>
> As shown above we are sending:
> 1.) The email address we are sending the password to,
> 2.) A subject line of "Per request, enclosed is your password",
> 3.) Message text that includes two blank lines and then the line "Your
> password is $pwd",
> 4.) And finally the email address that the message is coming from which
> the system uses as the FROM address.
>
> And THAT as they say is that...
>
> Scott...
>
> P.S. This is what Eddy would have found and been able ot use if he'd READ
> the first email or two from support. I got the impression from his posts
> that he wanted them to wire the whole thing up for him...
>
____________________________________________________________________________
> _____________________________________
>
> So Senti maybe you should RE-READ ALL of the thread, and everything Eddy
> wrote and the tone used. If Eddy were one of my customers and he sent me
> email like that I'd have long since returned is money, taken back what I'd
> sold him and encouraged him to shop elsewhere. Someone can't even read
the
> mail I send because he expects me to send a working sample, I don't bother
> with him either. I've seen the folks at CodeCharge bend over backwards to
> help, but frankly it is no real surprise based on his tone alone that they
> DIDN'T... I mean really, they have GIVEN AWAY in the form of their
samples
> a couple million dollars of billable work, and yet he EXPECTS more? They
> have done a brilliant, amazing job and yet he wants more? Were does one
> draw the line, having been, time and again in exactly the same shoes I was
> offended.
>
> In another post Eddy "clarified things" by explaining that he was under
> pressure from a customer to deliver and that was why he came on so strong,
> well some may take that as an excuse, but frankly I find it a touch weak
for
> a couple of important reasons.
>
> 1.) If he doesn't understand the product well enough, or is under so
much
> pressure that he expects something for nothing than he should NOT be using
> the tool for production work. He's TAKING money from customers for
> deliverables based on a Development Tool he doesn't fully understand and
> isn't willing to learn? I take back some of what I said, he's not
arrogant,
> greedy and etc, HE'S looking to go out of business and he's stealing...
>
> 2.) If he's under that much pressure that he can't (or won't) READ, then
> he (as I pointed out in a previous missive) should find another line of
> work. When taking money one must ALWAYS work within or somewhat below
ones
> limitations. One should ALWAYS as a matter of business course manage
> expectation so that Customers DON'T put you under so much pressure that
you
> have to demand something from one of your suppliers: "Bad planning on
your
> part DOES NOT constitute and emergency on my part!" You should also
ALWAYS
> expect to pay for what you want yesterday and not get arrogant or
aggressive
> with suppliers when you want more from them. "You catch more flies with
> honey than you do with vinegar!"
>
> Scott...
>
>
>
>
> Senti <senti@lamanga.org> wrote in message
>news:9g66bt$5ts$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> >
> > "Dr. Scott R. Senay" <drsenay@conceptech.com> wrote in message
> >news:9g6312$306$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> > > Okay one more run at this;
> > >
> > > First a disclaimer:
> > >
> > > I read through ALL of Eddy's posts and it appeared to ME that he was
> > > expecting, DEMANDING an answer in the form of completed code.
> Subsequent
> > > missives indicated he was working from client pressure so he may have
> been
> > a
> > > touch more pushy and demanding than he normally may have been. I
wrote
> > what
> > > I did because of said perspective and my subsequent outrage, after all
> > > CodeCharge is a fantastic development tool and Yes has gone SO FAR
above
> > and
> > > beyond the call that I was offended by his demands, not his questions.
> I
> > > could have, and in fact in another thread DID point someone else at
the
> > > correct answer which incidentally the folks at Yes suggested to Eddy
in
> > his
> > > FIRST missive.
> > >
> > > Second:
> > >
> > > The answer is: Open the support example, Open the admCaseResponses
> page,
> > > Open the Response form, Click on the form properties, click on Events,
> > click
> > > on AFTER INSERT and a DETAILED example (which I've used in other CC
> > > programs) that directly answers Eddy's question is right there.
> > >
> > > So that's it, I was in my own odd way defending all the rest of us who
> > > respect and appreciate the BARGAIN that CC is at $279 and trying in
> > language
> > > STRONG enough to get through to him that if he'd have read the first
> > message
> > > from CC support he'd have had his answer, which is why I went off like
I
> > > did. They suggested he look at the support example, they just didn't
> lay
> > it
> > > out to the click like I did above.
> > >
> > > That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
> > >
> > > (P.S. As to the "Dr." part, yes I have a PH.D that I worked LONG and
> hard
> > > to get and I happen to have put that into my mail program somewhere,
> I'll
> > go
> > > fix it if offends...)
> > >
> >
> > Okee, you stick with it, but wrong you are.
> > You think CodeCharge is a fantastic development tool , Eddy maybe not.
He
> is
> > not even saying that, he is just mad because support was not very
helpful.
> > You think that is reason enough to insult him like that ...
> > I am 40 years old, en sometimes I also put pressure on people to get
> things
> > done, but , NEVER NEVER in my life, I have been insulted by a person
like
> > you picked on him.
> > I think you should not only apologize to him, but certainly to the whole
> > group here and specially to the people at YES.
> > Any potentially codecharge buyer will have second thoughts after reading
> > your replies to people.
> >
> > Case Closed on my behalf
> > Senti R
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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CodeCharge
|
| Posted: 06/18/2001, 12:14 AM |
|
Eddy,
The reason we are not expanding our examples is simply because there is much
more to creating a reliable online store than just adding an email
component, and we are not selling the Online Store, we are selling
CodeCharge.
If we give you an example of sending shopping cart by email, your next
question may be how to clear all items from the shopping cart, then how to
email only the items that were ordered withiin the last day, etc. We could
easily become a programming house building applications for you and this is
not our business.
What if we didn't include any shopping cart with our example ? Your first
question then would be "How do I create shopping cart ?"
Secondly, we simply cannot support "everything". Just because we sell code
generating software, doesn't make us the central place on the Internet where
everyone can come to have their applications created or modified or
completed. There are literally thousands of online resources that have
various code examples, so imagine how long it would take us to recreate them
We provided you with the method of generating 70%-90% of the code but we
simply cannot generate 100% of every application that users want.
Thirdly, the knowledge of MS Access and Excel is often sufficient to learn
and use CodeCharge for simple to medium tasks. For more complex tasks, if
you purchase MS Access, you have to learn how to create Form Events in MS
Access. If you purchase MS Excel, you have to learn how to create Macros.
Microsoft is not going to create custom functions for you, yet we created 15
examples of web applications just for you The same with CodeCharge - you
can use it for certain tasks, and you may need to find additional help for
others.
Lastly, one of the reasons we didn't create fully working web applications
is because then we would need to support them and answer requests like yours
In general though, we are hoping that users understand that by supporting
CodeCharge, we support the code generated by it and we support the
GUI/application itself. Sometimes we are able to point users in the right
direction for some of their needs - drivers, patches, tips, etc.
Since we don't support examples and custom applications, please let us know
if you feel that we are making a mistake by giving our users such extensive
examples. Do you believe that we should not include any examples with
CodeCharge because this makes users think that we support them as they were
full applications ?
The above information relates to many requests we receive.
Now back to your question - we actually do want to help you and we are often
providing code samples where feasible. In your case, we referred you to our
Support system and we assumed that you can find your answers there. Here is
a more specific pointer:
On page "admCaseResponses", "Response" form, you can see an After Insert
Event, with code that reads several records from the database and sends
emails:
-----------------------------------
#Email support personnel
$db->query("select user_email from users where send_support_responses=1");
$Subject = "Support Reply to Case# $fldcase_id. Status - " . $status;
while( $db->next_record() ) {
mail($db->f("user_email"), $Subject, $supp_notif_body, "From:
support@company.com");
}
$db->query( "update support_cases set locked_by=0 where
case_id=$fldcase_id" );
You can see here how to execute a query, how to create a loop that reads all
query records, and how to send email using "mail" function.
You can also see how you can update records in another table after emails
were sent.
This should be a good start for you, at least so that you can give it a try
and convert for your own use. Then you may let us know when you get stuck
rather then expecting us to write something, test it and be held responsible
Adam S.
CodeCharge Support
"Eddy" <eddy@intramanga.com> wrote in message
news:9g365c$enq$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> more insisting on support to get the line of code that extracts a grid
from
> a table, the button and sending mail I figured them out already trough the
> examples, was negative :
>
> SUPPORT:
> Eddy,
> at the moment, this is all we can offer by way of example. Indeed, it
would
> not take us long to create an example for you but the truth of the matter
is
> that there are other requests which are pending and in all fairness, we
have
> to deal with these on a first-come-first-serve basis. As Adam said, with
> time, we shall get around to implementing your request but for the moment,
> it has to wait on the queue.
>
> Walker P.
> CodeCharge Support
>
>
> MY CLOSING ANSWER TO THAT IS :
> Well, what can I say.
> This issue was already asked several months ago on your discussion board.
I
> did not realize that writing a few lines of code that extracts a list from
a
> table was such a big deal for an expert programmer.
> This makes CodeCharge quit useless for non-programmers, at least for me it
> is for the time being.
> I would remove the slogan "If you know how to use MS Excel or MS Access
then
> you should be able to use CodeCharge" from your homepage, because you
still
> need a high skill of PHP-MYSQL to send a grid by email.
> So I just wasted $279 this week for nothing and I still have to pay a
> programmer to find me a solution.
> Thanks again for nothing.
> Eddy
>
>
> I AM JUST ASKING FOR A STUPID LINE OF CODE that extracts a grid from a
table
> and places it in a string.
> Very disappointed I am looking for somebody who can write this piece of
code
> for a small fee.
>
> Regards,
> Eddy,
>
>
>
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Dr. Scott R. Senay
|
| Posted: 06/18/2001, 8:20 AM |
|
Well said Adam!
As far as I'm concerned you folks have produced THE BEST software made in
the last twenty years... I've made a career out of buying every new piece
of software (that I think could be useful) produced and getting to know it
in great detail, and I can say with certainty this is the best. The
detailed, in depth examples you provide are more, much more than anyone has
any right to expect and an invaluable tool that makes learning how to use
child's play! You can't make all the people happy all of the time, but
periodically people get out of hand in their expectations of what support
should be. Having spent many years in the business on BOTH sides of the
equation, and having been the CTO of a "start-up" developing a tool very
similar in target audience the issue of how much support to give is a sticky
issue. Eddy's demands crossed a number of lines from his first post on and
just (IMNSHO) got more demanding and arrogant in tone as he continued to
beat on a "dead horse" which is what caused me to pen what many considered a
"flame" simply because they DID NOT read the entire thread... I stand by
my somewhat unusual temperance lesson and the results, since this thread
started I've seen Eddy post other questions and information in a much more
community friendly fashion with a much tempered attitude.
In any case, I think what you and your team is doing is WELL above and
beyond the call of duty and a fantastic service you do your customers. Your
attitude and availability is highly laudable for an SE firm and a credit to
the industry as a whole. Microsoft could, nay SHOULD take a lesson from
you, however my greatest fear is that they will instead do what they have
been seen to do so well, buy you out and destroy you... CodeCharge makes
Visual Studio specifically the .net and Interdev portions look like so much
complex and painful bloatware! I speak from direct experience here, up
until I found CodeCharge I was a serious Visual Studio Enterprise developer
as well as a serious PHP developer... Now I won't be buying or using Visual
Studio any longer since CodeCharge is THE best for "thin client" web
development!!!!
Sincerely,
Scott Robert Senay.
CodeCharge <support@codecharge.com> wrote in message
news:9gk9ot$viu$1@mail.tankhill.com.
> Eddy,
>
> The reason we are not expanding our examples is simply because there is
much
> more to creating a reliable online store than just adding an email
> component, and we are not selling the Online Store, we are selling
> CodeCharge.
> If we give you an example of sending shopping cart by email, your next
> question may be how to clear all items from the shopping cart, then how to
> email only the items that were ordered withiin the last day, etc. We could
> easily become a programming house building applications for you and this
is
> not our business.
> What if we didn't include any shopping cart with our example ? Your first
> question then would be "How do I create shopping cart ?"
> Secondly, we simply cannot support "everything". Just because we sell code
> generating software, doesn't make us the central place on the Internet
where
> everyone can come to have their applications created or modified or
> completed. There are literally thousands of online resources that have
> various code examples, so imagine how long it would take us to recreate
them
> We provided you with the method of generating 70%-90% of the code but
we
> simply cannot generate 100% of every application that users want.
> Thirdly, the knowledge of MS Access and Excel is often sufficient to learn
> and use CodeCharge for simple to medium tasks. For more complex tasks, if
> you purchase MS Access, you have to learn how to create Form Events in MS
> Access. If you purchase MS Excel, you have to learn how to create Macros.
> Microsoft is not going to create custom functions for you, yet we created
15
> examples of web applications just for you The same with CodeCharge -
you
> can use it for certain tasks, and you may need to find additional help for
> others.
> Lastly, one of the reasons we didn't create fully working web applications
> is because then we would need to support them and answer requests like
yours
>
>
> In general though, we are hoping that users understand that by supporting
> CodeCharge, we support the code generated by it and we support the
> GUI/application itself. Sometimes we are able to point users in the right
> direction for some of their needs - drivers, patches, tips, etc.
>
> Since we don't support examples and custom applications, please let us
know
> if you feel that we are making a mistake by giving our users such
extensive
> examples. Do you believe that we should not include any examples with
> CodeCharge because this makes users think that we support them as they
were
> full applications ?
>
> The above information relates to many requests we receive.
> Now back to your question - we actually do want to help you and we are
often
> providing code samples where feasible. In your case, we referred you to
our
> Support system and we assumed that you can find your answers there. Here
is
> a more specific pointer:
>
> On page "admCaseResponses", "Response" form, you can see an After Insert
> Event, with code that reads several records from the database and sends
> emails:
> -----------------------------------
> #Email support personnel
> $db->query("select user_email from users where
send_support_responses=1");
> $Subject = "Support Reply to Case# $fldcase_id. Status - " . $status;
> while( $db->next_record() ) {
> mail($db->f("user_email"), $Subject, $supp_notif_body, "From:
>support@company.com");
> }
> $db->query( "update support_cases set locked_by=0 where
> case_id=$fldcase_id" );
>
> You can see here how to execute a query, how to create a loop that reads
all
> query records, and how to send email using "mail" function.
> You can also see how you can update records in another table after emails
> were sent.
> This should be a good start for you, at least so that you can give it a
try
> and convert for your own use. Then you may let us know when you get stuck
> rather then expecting us to write something, test it and be held
responsible
>
>
> Adam S.
> CodeCharge Support
>
>
> "Eddy" <eddy@intramanga.com> wrote in message
>news:9g365c$enq$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> > more insisting on support to get the line of code that extracts a grid
> from
> > a table, the button and sending mail I figured them out already trough
the
> > examples, was negative :
> >
> > SUPPORT:
> > Eddy,
> > at the moment, this is all we can offer by way of example. Indeed, it
> would
> > not take us long to create an example for you but the truth of the
matter
> is
> > that there are other requests which are pending and in all fairness, we
> have
> > to deal with these on a first-come-first-serve basis. As Adam said, with
> > time, we shall get around to implementing your request but for the
moment,
> > it has to wait on the queue.
> >
> > Walker P.
> > CodeCharge Support
> >
> >
> > MY CLOSING ANSWER TO THAT IS :
> > Well, what can I say.
> > This issue was already asked several months ago on your discussion
board.
> I
> > did not realize that writing a few lines of code that extracts a list
from
> a
> > table was such a big deal for an expert programmer.
> > This makes CodeCharge quit useless for non-programmers, at least for me
it
> > is for the time being.
> > I would remove the slogan "If you know how to use MS Excel or MS Access
> then
> > you should be able to use CodeCharge" from your homepage, because you
> still
> > need a high skill of PHP-MYSQL to send a grid by email.
> > So I just wasted $279 this week for nothing and I still have to pay a
> > programmer to find me a solution.
> > Thanks again for nothing.
> > Eddy
> >
> >
> > I AM JUST ASKING FOR A STUPID LINE OF CODE that extracts a grid from a
> table
> > and places it in a string.
> > Very disappointed I am looking for somebody who can write this piece of
> code
> > for a small fee.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Eddy,
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Senti
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| Posted: 06/18/2001, 3:04 PM |
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"Dr. Scott R. Senay" <drsenay@conceptech.com> wrote in message
news:9gl67i$t0s$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> issue. Eddy's demands crossed a number of lines from his first post on
and
> just (IMNSHO) got more demanding and arrogant in tone as he continued to
> beat on a "dead horse" which is what caused me to pen what many considered
a
> "flame" simply because they DID NOT read the entire thread... I stand by
> my somewhat unusual temperance lesson and the results, since this thread
> started I've seen Eddy post other questions and information in a much more
> community friendly fashion with a much tempered attitude.
>
I cant believe it, you don't get it, do you. Is this a last attempt to
justify your own arrogant and disgusting behaviour. Your so-called "unusual
temperance lesson" is low, worthless and disgusting.
So now we all cant read. I can assure you that I have read and reread ALL
threads, and that I came to the conclusion that here is only one thing wrong
here, YOU.
Every company is build up on experience AND critics, they learn a lot out of
it. Or are you the only person on earth who never got any? The best example
here is the reply from CC to eddy. You would like to see that anybody with
critics and complains go somewhere else , right? Then how is CC going to
defend their point of view? Cant you see that nobody is asking for your
"comments", you were asked several times to drop it. Why don't you just do
it, and let each individual decide for himself if he likes or dislikes CC. I
think CC is strong enough to speak for themselves, without your
"professional" approach.
Senti R
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Eddy
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| Posted: 06/18/2001, 5:12 PM |
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Hi Adam,
Thanks for your reply. See comments between your message lines.
First a small note for the Dr NOŽs around. Where I come from , we have the
right to have an opinion and speak openly in public when we like to, without
getting gunned down for it. Apparently a single wise-nose here thinks
different.
This does not mean that everybody has to agree with me. But at least you can
reply me in a descent way, explaining why you are not. I will read, think
about it, and reply to it if I feel so. Anything insulting goes to my block
list even faster than the download time.
So this said I can go on.
"CodeCharge" <support@codecharge.com> wrote in message
news:9gk9ot$viu$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> Eddy,
>
> The reason we are not expanding our examples is simply because there is
much
> more to creating a reliable online store than just adding an email
> component, and we are not selling the Online Store, we are selling
> CodeCharge.
OK, fair enough, but you that is not what you told me in the beginning, you
just gave me the impression that you did not want make time now to help me
out here.
> If we give you an example of sending shopping cart by email, your next
> question may be how to clear all items from the shopping cart, then how to
> email only the items that were ordered withiin the last day, etc. We could
> easily become a programming house building applications for you and this
is
> not our business.
> What if we didn't include any shopping cart with our example ? Your first
> question then would be "How do I create shopping cart ?"
No, without the examples I never would have bought CC. I wouldŽnot know
where to start from.
> Secondly, we simply cannot support "everything". Just because we sell code
> generating software, doesn't make us the central place on the Internet
where
> everyone can come to have their applications created or modified or
Trough, but I thought that the examples were supported. Or I missed it, or
you should add a statement somewhere that they are not, or only partly.
> completed. There are literally thousands of online resources that have
> various code examples, so imagine how long it would take us to recreate
them
> We provided you with the method of generating 70%-90% of the code but
we
> simply cannot generate 100% of every application that users want.
Yes, I found that out. But I was truly convinced having a quick look on the
examples that I could realize my application without coding. Maybe I was too
much in a hurry.
> Thirdly, the knowledge of MS Access and Excel is often sufficient to learn
> and use CodeCharge for simple to medium tasks. For more complex tasks, if
> you purchase MS Access, you have to learn how to create Form Events in MS
> Access. If you purchase MS Excel, you have to learn how to create Macros.
> Microsoft is not going to create custom functions for you, yet we created
15
> examples of web applications just for you The same with CodeCharge -
you
> can use it for certain tasks, and you may need to find additional help for
> others.
That's just what I was asking for
> Lastly, one of the reasons we didn't create fully working web applications
> is because then we would need to support them and answer requests like
yours
I think the less complete they are, the more questions are gone be asked.
> In general though, we are hoping that users understand that by supporting
> CodeCharge, we support the code generated by it and we support the
> GUI/application itself. Sometimes we are able to point users in the right
> direction for some of their needs - drivers, patches, tips, etc.
>
> Since we don't support examples and custom applications, please let us
know
> if you feel that we are making a mistake by giving our users such
extensive
> examples. Do you believe that we should not include any examples with
> CodeCharge because this makes users think that we support them as they
were
> full applications ?
> The above information relates to many requests we receive.
No, like I said before, I would not have bought CC without the examples. But
you could warn people better that there is no support on the examples. Or
you could make some fine-tuned examples for an extra fee.
Also a good idea is to follow up on a thread on your message-board , the
longest thread b.t.w. "Collaboration anyone? Share and Learn Faster " true,
everything I know right now is trough the given examples. There, people
could exchange code if they like to, and the more code available , the less
questions will be asked. More companies work like that with a lot of
success.
>
> Now back to your question - we actually do want to help you and we are
often
> providing code samples where feasible. In your case, we referred you to
our
> Support system and we assumed that you can find your answers there. Here
is
> a more specific pointer:
Thank you ....
>
> On page "admCaseResponses", "Response" form, you can see an After Insert
> Event, with code that reads several records from the database and sends
> emails:
> -----------------------------------
> #Email support personnel
> $db->query("select user_email from users where
send_support_responses=1");
> $Subject = "Support Reply to Case# $fldcase_id. Status - " . $status;
> while( $db->next_record() ) {
> mail($db->f("user_email"), $Subject, $supp_notif_body, "From:
>support@company.com");
> }
> $db->query( "update support_cases set locked_by=0 where
> case_id=$fldcase_id" );
>
> You can see here how to execute a query, how to create a loop that reads
all
> query records, and how to send email using "mail" function.
> You can also see how you can update records in another table after emails
> were sent.
> This should be a good start for you, at least so that you can give it a
try
> and convert for your own use. Then you may let us know when you get stuck
> rather then expecting us to write something, test it and be held
responsible
>
>
Ha , sorry but I still don't get it completely. Phhhh PHP..
But don't worry, I got a temporal solution of my own VERY bad coding. First
let me explain what I really wanted. I transformed the whole store example
in a viewing show-room for a real-estate company. Than visitors (members)
could add the items where they were interested, in a information wish list
(the cart). So what my email had to do is make a body with the member info
and ALL the items in the list. Don't laugh to hard , but here is my WORKING
solution :
I created a confirmation_page with a before show event like this :
$to_email = "webmaster@mycompany.com";
$subject = "Info-Request";
$body = "";
$sSQL = "select first_name, last_name, address, email, phone from members
where members.member_id=" . $UserID ;
$db->query($sSQL);
$db->next_record();
$fldfirst_name = $db->f("first_name");
$flditem_id = $db->f("last_name");
$fldprice = $db->f("email");
$fldquantity = $db->f("adress");
$fldsub_total = $db->f("phone");
$body = $body . "Web Form Processing request " . "\n" .
"------------------------------\n" .
$db->f("first_name") . " " . $db->f("last_name") . "\n" .
$db->f("address") . "\n" .
"Telf: " . $db->f("phone") . "\n" .
"eMail: " . $db->f("email") . "\n\n" .
"Is requesting more information on : " . "\n\n";
$from_email = $db->f("email") ;
$sSQL = "select name from items, orders where items.item_id=orders.item_id
and orders.member_id=" . $UserID ;
$db->query($sSQL);
if($db->next_record())
{
do
{
$flditem_id = $db->f("name");
$body = $body . $flditem_id . ", ";
} while($db->next_record() );
}
else //-- there are no records
{
//$db->num_rows() == 0 || ($iPage - 1)*$RecordsPerPage >= $db->num_rows())
echo "No records";
return;
};
mail($to_email, $subject, $body,"From: $from_email\nReply-To:
$from_email\nX-Mailer: PHP/" . phpversion());
AND IT WORKS ...
But, I know this is very clumsy, and probably can be done a lot shorter and
certainly cleaner, but it is my working solution for the moment while I am
trying to get a little closer to PHP-MySQL
Well , thanks again for filling me in , in your busy time schedule today.
And I think CC has a great future as we all learning and helping from time
to time
No hard feelings and lets move forward.
Eddy,
> Adam S.
> CodeCharge Support
>
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Dr. Scott R. Senay
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| Posted: 06/19/2001, 11:34 AM |
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Interesting turn of events, nes ce pas? To Senti I'd have to echo back his
GET OVER IT!!!
To Eddy, may be clumsy but does what you want for the moment so I'd say
Bravo! Looks very similar to the code I've mentioned in previous posts
found in the support example, and if it works for you that is the MOST
important part.
TO ALL, yes I may have come on strong, but I felt at the time my rebuke was
justified, I admit I could be wrong but I don't think so. Boiled down it is
still just an opinion and opinions are like certain body parts, we all have
one and from time to time they all stink. I'm not currently (nor have I
been) involved in any kind of relationship with YesSoftware other than being
a customer. A customer who clearly recalls the disclaimer that the samples
are NOT SUPPORTED and are for informative use ONLY. Having been digging
around in the examples to date I have found then amazingly informative and
USEFUL as bases to build upon and have done EXACTLY that time and again.
I've had my own share of questions as I moved forward, even contacted
support a time or two myself and was VERY happy with their responses, ones
that they didn't need to give me because they DID include a disclaimer...
YesSoftware could NEVER "unload" on a customer the way I did, no company
could realistically afford to, nor could I in the same capacity one of which
I've been many times before. However as a customer like all the rest here
on the newsgroup I had the right and IMNSHO duty to shine the light of
reason in whatever fashion accomplished my objective, indeed the end
justified the means here. No serious harm was done to anyone save perhaps
Senti who has his opinion which he's entitled to who seems to think I
offended him. Since the original message that started this Eddy has
throttled back and has been interacting with the group and getting things
done, I find his efforts laudable and valid, yet others have then hollered
at him for being helpful so in summary it takes all kinds...
Scott...
Eddy <eddy@intramanga.com> wrote in message
news:9gm5dk$tp8$1@news.codecharge.com...
> Hi Adam,
>
> Thanks for your reply. See comments between your message lines.
>
> First a small note for the Dr NOŽs around. Where I come from , we have the
> right to have an opinion and speak openly in public when we like to,
without
> getting gunned down for it. Apparently a single wise-nose here thinks
> different.
> This does not mean that everybody has to agree with me. But at least you
can
> reply me in a descent way, explaining why you are not. I will read, think
> about it, and reply to it if I feel so. Anything insulting goes to my
block
> list even faster than the download time.
> So this said I can go on.
>
> "CodeCharge" <support@codecharge.com> wrote in message
>news:9gk9ot$viu$1@mail.tankhill.com...
> > Eddy,
> >
> > The reason we are not expanding our examples is simply because there is
> much
> > more to creating a reliable online store than just adding an email
> > component, and we are not selling the Online Store, we are selling
> > CodeCharge.
>
> OK, fair enough, but you that is not what you told me in the beginning,
you
> just gave me the impression that you did not want make time now to help me
> out here.
>
> > If we give you an example of sending shopping cart by email, your next
> > question may be how to clear all items from the shopping cart, then how
to
> > email only the items that were ordered withiin the last day, etc. We
could
> > easily become a programming house building applications for you and this
> is
> > not our business.
> > What if we didn't include any shopping cart with our example ? Your
first
> > question then would be "How do I create shopping cart ?"
>
> No, without the examples I never would have bought CC. I wouldŽnot know
> where to start from.
>
> > Secondly, we simply cannot support "everything". Just because we sell
code
> > generating software, doesn't make us the central place on the Internet
> where
> > everyone can come to have their applications created or modified or
>
> Trough, but I thought that the examples were supported. Or I missed it, or
> you should add a statement somewhere that they are not, or only partly.
>
> > completed. There are literally thousands of online resources that have
> > various code examples, so imagine how long it would take us to recreate
> them
> > We provided you with the method of generating 70%-90% of the code
but
> we
> > simply cannot generate 100% of every application that users want.
>
> Yes, I found that out. But I was truly convinced having a quick look on
the
> examples that I could realize my application without coding. Maybe I was
too
> much in a hurry.
>
> > Thirdly, the knowledge of MS Access and Excel is often sufficient to
learn
> > and use CodeCharge for simple to medium tasks. For more complex tasks,
if
> > you purchase MS Access, you have to learn how to create Form Events in
MS
> > Access. If you purchase MS Excel, you have to learn how to create
Macros.
> > Microsoft is not going to create custom functions for you, yet we
created
> 15
> > examples of web applications just for you The same with CodeCharge -
> you
> > can use it for certain tasks, and you may need to find additional help
for
> > others.
>
> That's just what I was asking for
>
> > Lastly, one of the reasons we didn't create fully working web
applications
> > is because then we would need to support them and answer requests like
> yours
>
> I think the less complete they are, the more questions are gone be asked.
>
> > In general though, we are hoping that users understand that by
supporting
> > CodeCharge, we support the code generated by it and we support the
> > GUI/application itself. Sometimes we are able to point users in the
right
> > direction for some of their needs - drivers, patches, tips, etc.
> >
> > Since we don't support examples and custom applications, please let us
> know
> > if you feel that we are making a mistake by giving our users such
> extensive
> > examples. Do you believe that we should not include any examples with
> > CodeCharge because this makes users think that we support them as they
> were
> > full applications ?
> > The above information relates to many requests we receive.
>
> No, like I said before, I would not have bought CC without the examples.
But
> you could warn people better that there is no support on the examples. Or
> you could make some fine-tuned examples for an extra fee.
> Also a good idea is to follow up on a thread on your message-board , the
> longest thread b.t.w. "Collaboration anyone? Share and Learn Faster "
true,
> everything I know right now is trough the given examples. There, people
> could exchange code if they like to, and the more code available , the
less
> questions will be asked. More companies work like that with a lot of
> success.
>
> >
> > Now back to your question - we actually do want to help you and we are
> often
> > providing code samples where feasible. In your case, we referred you to
> our
> > Support system and we assumed that you can find your answers there. Here
> is
> > a more specific pointer:
>
> Thank you ....
> >
> > On page "admCaseResponses", "Response" form, you can see an After Insert
> > Event, with code that reads several records from the database and sends
> > emails:
> > -----------------------------------
> > #Email support personnel
> > $db->query("select user_email from users where
> send_support_responses=1");
> > $Subject = "Support Reply to Case# $fldcase_id. Status - " . $status;
> > while( $db->next_record() ) {
> > mail($db->f("user_email"), $Subject, $supp_notif_body, "From:
> >support@company.com");
> > }
> > $db->query( "update support_cases set locked_by=0 where
> > case_id=$fldcase_id" );
> >
> > You can see here how to execute a query, how to create a loop that reads
> all
> > query records, and how to send email using "mail" function.
> > You can also see how you can update records in another table after
emails
> > were sent.
> > This should be a good start for you, at least so that you can give it a
> try
> > and convert for your own use. Then you may let us know when you get
stuck
> > rather then expecting us to write something, test it and be held
> responsible
> >
> >
> Ha , sorry but I still don't get it completely. Phhhh PHP..
> But don't worry, I got a temporal solution of my own VERY bad coding.
First
> let me explain what I really wanted. I transformed the whole store example
> in a viewing show-room for a real-estate company. Than visitors (members)
> could add the items where they were interested, in a information wish list
> (the cart). So what my email had to do is make a body with the member info
> and ALL the items in the list. Don't laugh to hard , but here is my
WORKING
> solution :
> I created a confirmation_page with a before show event like this :
>
> $to_email = "webmaster@mycompany.com";
> $subject = "Info-Request";
> $body = "";
> $sSQL = "select first_name, last_name, address, email, phone from members
> where members.member_id=" . $UserID ;
> $db->query($sSQL);
> $db->next_record();
> $fldfirst_name = $db->f("first_name");
> $flditem_id = $db->f("last_name");
> $fldprice = $db->f("email");
> $fldquantity = $db->f("adress");
> $fldsub_total = $db->f("phone");
>
> $body = $body . "Web Form Processing request " . "\n" .
> "------------------------------\n" .
> $db->f("first_name") . " " . $db->f("last_name") . "\n" .
> $db->f("address") . "\n" .
> "Telf: " . $db->f("phone") . "\n" .
> "eMail: " . $db->f("email") . "\n\n" .
> "Is requesting more information on : " . "\n\n";
>
> $from_email = $db->f("email") ;
>
> $sSQL = "select name from items, orders where items.item_id=orders.item_id
> and orders.member_id=" . $UserID ;
> $db->query($sSQL);
> if($db->next_record())
> {
> do
> {
> $flditem_id = $db->f("name");
>
> $body = $body . $flditem_id . ", ";
>
> } while($db->next_record() );
> }
> else file://-- there are no records
> {
> file://$db->num_rows() == 0 || ($iPage - 1)*$RecordsPerPage >=
$db->num_rows())
>
> echo "No records";
> return;
> };
>
> mail($to_email, $subject, $body,"From: $from_email\nReply-To:
> $from_email\nX-Mailer: PHP/" . phpversion());
>
> AND IT WORKS ...
> But, I know this is very clumsy, and probably can be done a lot shorter
and
> certainly cleaner, but it is my working solution for the moment while I am
> trying to get a little closer to PHP-MySQL
>
> Well , thanks again for filling me in , in your busy time schedule today.
> And I think CC has a great future as we all learning and helping from time
> to time
> No hard feelings and lets move forward.
> Eddy,
>
>
>
> > Adam S.
> > CodeCharge Support
> >
>
>
>
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