Frank Rocco
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| Posted: 08/22/2001, 10:20 AM |
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Hello,
I noticed that most code discussed on this fourm is PHP based. I do mostly
ASP and VB. I am looking for a good book on PHP development and reference
that has real code examples.
Thanks
Frank
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Val Raemaekers
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| Posted: 08/22/2001, 10:26 AM |
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Hi Frank,
PHP and MySQL Web Development
ISBN 0-672-31784-2
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0672317842/qid%3...1104/103-738056
4-2939819
Regards,
Val
"Frank Rocco" <farocco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9m0pkl$gra$1@news.codecharge.com...
> Hello,
>
> I noticed that most code discussed on this fourm is PHP based. I do mostly
> ASP and VB. I am looking for a good book on PHP development and reference
> that has real code examples.
>
> Thanks
> Frank
>
>
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Jason Charette
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| Posted: 08/22/2001, 10:28 AM |
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IMHO:
1. PHP4 bible by IDG Books (isbn 0-7645-4716-X) - Beginner to intermediate.
2. PHP Developer's Cookbook by SAMS (isbn 0-672-31924-1) - Intermediate to
advanced - Damn fine book.
3. Core PHP Programming by Prentice Hall (no ISBN - It's not in front of
me) - Beginner to intermediate.
Jason
"Frank Rocco" <farocco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9m0pkl$gra$1@news.codecharge.com...
> Hello,
>
> I noticed that most code discussed on this fourm is PHP based. I do mostly
> ASP and VB. I am looking for a good book on PHP development and reference
> that has real code examples.
>
> Thanks
> Frank
>
>
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Frank Rocco
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| Posted: 08/22/2001, 10:44 AM |
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Thanks for the suggestions. I'll check them out.
I don't know too much about why you would use PHP over VBscript or
Javascript.
Regards,
Frank
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Jason Charette
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| Posted: 08/22/2001, 1:02 PM |
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You wouldn't. Javascript and VBScript are client-sided technologies... PHP
is server-sided like ASP. So the question should be why use PHP over ASP?
The answer: I don't know. I'm a PHP type fella, but alot of ASP type folks
out there, who have played with PHP, seem to like it better. Why? Beats
me... Anyone confirm/deny?
Jason.
"Frank Rocco" <farocco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9m0r2o$jgl$1@news.codecharge.com...
> Thanks for the suggestions. I'll check them out.
> I don't know too much about why you would use PHP over VBscript or
> Javascript.
>
> Regards,
> Frank
>
>
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Michael A. Weaver
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| Posted: 08/22/2001, 1:24 PM |
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We use Linux servers. We believe that PHP kicks perl's butt in ease of use
and ASP works best on NT servers. The cost and reliability of linux beats
Windows (in our opinion). To me, PHP seems more forgiving than ASP, but I'm
sure each has their advantages. Try it out - if you don't like it you can
switch back.
As for books, the developer's Cookbook is very, very helpful. I also prefer
Professional PHP Programming:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1861002963/qid=9...77/sr=1-2/ref=s
c_b_2/107-0333871-5595713
There's a beginner's book, too:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1861003730/qid=9...18/sr=2-2/107-0
333871-5595713
michael
"Jason Charette" <jasoncharette@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9m1350$419$1@news.codecharge.com...
> You wouldn't. Javascript and VBScript are client-sided technologies... PHP
> is server-sided like ASP. So the question should be why use PHP over ASP?
> The answer: I don't know. I'm a PHP type fella, but alot of ASP type folks
> out there, who have played with PHP, seem to like it better. Why? Beats
> me... Anyone confirm/deny?
>
> Jason.
>
>
> "Frank Rocco" <farocco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:9m0r2o$jgl$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > Thanks for the suggestions. I'll check them out.
> > I don't know too much about why you would use PHP over VBscript or
> > Javascript.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Frank
> >
> >
>
>
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Daniel Gaudreault
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| Posted: 08/23/2001, 5:30 AM |
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Having been both an ASP and a PHP developper I have a fair hand at the
advantages and disadvantages of each language. (I know nothing about .NET
so some of these opinions may be wrong).
ASP
-------
Advantages
- easy to learn. if you know javascript or vbscript you can be up n a
manner of days.
- easy clustering (mostly due to M$'s approach to their server paltforms
- easy DB Access with ADO.
- easy to create components using VB/VJ/VC++
Disadvantages
- Windows only (unless you use PerlASP or ChiliASP both of which is not
really ASP).
- requires massive overhead when you start getting fancy, or start using
components.
- keels under a very heavy load (when compared to PHP).
- Server side includes (SSI) are not very flexible
PHP
-------
Advantages
- flexible
- forgiving
- powerfull string handling RegEX (pretty much on par with Perl)
- Supports object orientation
- proper include statements for script based includes versus SSI
- massive amounts of pre-built extensions
- practically exists under every platform imaginable
- free debugging via various products, ActiveState Komodo, DBG, Zend Debug
- Free caching tools
Disadvantages
- Not too Win32 Friendly ISAPI components tend to keel every once in a while
- DB communication rather difficult due to non standard interface (though
this is beaing worked on throught the PEAR projects.
Hope this helps,
Dan
"Michael A. Weaver" <michael@tminuszero.com> wrote in message
news:9m14dv$6ae$1@news.codecharge.com...
> We use Linux servers. We believe that PHP kicks perl's butt in ease of use
> and ASP works best on NT servers. The cost and reliability of linux beats
> Windows (in our opinion). To me, PHP seems more forgiving than ASP, but
I'm
> sure each has their advantages. Try it out - if you don't like it you can
> switch back.
>
> As for books, the developer's Cookbook is very, very helpful. I also
prefer
> Professional PHP Programming:
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1861002963/qid=9...77/sr=1-2/ref=s
> c_b_2/107-0333871-5595713
>
> There's a beginner's book, too:
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1861003730/qid=9...18/sr=2-2/107-0
> 333871-5595713
>
> michael
>
>
> "Jason Charette" <jasoncharette@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:9m1350$419$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > You wouldn't. Javascript and VBScript are client-sided technologies...
PHP
> > is server-sided like ASP. So the question should be why use PHP over
ASP?
> > The answer: I don't know. I'm a PHP type fella, but alot of ASP type
folks
> > out there, who have played with PHP, seem to like it better. Why? Beats
> > me... Anyone confirm/deny?
> >
> > Jason.
> >
> >
> > "Frank Rocco" <farocco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:9m0r2o$jgl$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > > Thanks for the suggestions. I'll check them out.
> > > I don't know too much about why you would use PHP over VBscript or
> > > Javascript.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Frank
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Michael A. Weaver
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| Posted: 08/23/2001, 6:00 AM |
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That's what I MEANT, of course.
m
"Daniel Gaudreault" <danielg@cadlink.com> wrote in message
news:9m2t1k$4ue$1@news.codecharge.com...
> Having been both an ASP and a PHP developper I have a fair hand at the
> advantages and disadvantages of each language. (I know nothing about .NET
> so some of these opinions may be wrong).
>
> ASP
> -------
> Advantages
>
> - easy to learn. if you know javascript or vbscript you can be up n a
> manner of days.
> - easy clustering (mostly due to M$'s approach to their server paltforms
> - easy DB Access with ADO.
> - easy to create components using VB/VJ/VC++
>
> Disadvantages
>
> - Windows only (unless you use PerlASP or ChiliASP both of which is not
> really ASP).
> - requires massive overhead when you start getting fancy, or start using
> components.
> - keels under a very heavy load (when compared to PHP).
> - Server side includes (SSI) are not very flexible
>
> PHP
> -------
> Advantages
>
> - flexible
> - forgiving
> - powerfull string handling RegEX (pretty much on par with Perl)
> - Supports object orientation
> - proper include statements for script based includes versus SSI
> - massive amounts of pre-built extensions
> - practically exists under every platform imaginable
> - free debugging via various products, ActiveState Komodo, DBG, Zend Debug
> - Free caching tools
>
> Disadvantages
>
> - Not too Win32 Friendly ISAPI components tend to keel every once in a
while
> - DB communication rather difficult due to non standard interface (though
> this is beaing worked on throught the PEAR projects.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> "Michael A. Weaver" <michael@tminuszero.com> wrote in message
>news:9m14dv$6ae$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > We use Linux servers. We believe that PHP kicks perl's butt in ease of
use
> > and ASP works best on NT servers. The cost and reliability of linux
beats
> > Windows (in our opinion). To me, PHP seems more forgiving than ASP, but
> I'm
> > sure each has their advantages. Try it out - if you don't like it you
can
> > switch back.
> >
> > As for books, the developer's Cookbook is very, very helpful. I also
> prefer
> > Professional PHP Programming:
> >
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1861002963/qid=9...77/sr=1-2/ref=s
> > c_b_2/107-0333871-5595713
> >
> > There's a beginner's book, too:
> >
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1861003730/qid=9...18/sr=2-2/107-0
> > 333871-5595713
> >
> > michael
> >
> >
> > "Jason Charette" <jasoncharette@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:9m1350$419$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > > You wouldn't. Javascript and VBScript are client-sided technologies...
> PHP
> > > is server-sided like ASP. So the question should be why use PHP over
> ASP?
> > > The answer: I don't know. I'm a PHP type fella, but alot of ASP type
> folks
> > > out there, who have played with PHP, seem to like it better. Why?
Beats
> > > me... Anyone confirm/deny?
> > >
> > > Jason.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Frank Rocco" <farocco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > >news:9m0r2o$jgl$1@news.codecharge.com...
> > > > Thanks for the suggestions. I'll check them out.
> > > > I don't know too much about why you would use PHP over VBscript or
> > > > Javascript.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Frank
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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