Bob K.
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| Posted: 02/04/2004, 6:08 PM |
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Hi,
I'm planning on purchasing the Personal Studio version in the near future
but before I do i'm trying to decide the utlity and future of the language
options. I know this is a loaded question which will ellicit more questions
than I can answer so I'll give a brief outline of what I'm going to use it
for.
First, I'm not well versed in writing code although I've done some VB. I'm
pretty good with databases though. Second, I'm looking to create some
basic database linked web pages with secure logons. Hopefully in time I can
expand this into a portal site with more than a few pages linked to a single
DB. I want something that is the up and coming technology as opposed to
something on its way out or without a future. With that little bit of info
where can I go?
Is .NET the future? What about ASP.NET or VB.NET or C#.NET? What about ASP
itself? PHP? JAVA?
I know there are no simple answers to this but that's why I'm asking for
opinions. I read somewhere in one the forums that MS would not be
supporting ASP after 2006. How does this come into play?
Also, thoughts on DB options is worthwhile since this will be a major
compoment of this. I currently use Access but find that it crawls with
even a moderate number of users. Since this project will be going online
the potential for a higher number of users is realistic. I've heard that
MySQL is pretty robust [and free] MS SQL is good but adds to the cost with
user licensing. How does this choice influence the langauge options above?
I really appreciate the suggestions anyone is willing to offer.
Many thanks for your time,
Bob
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DonB
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| Posted: 02/04/2004, 6:43 PM |
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With the assumption you plan to deploy to a commercial hosting service, PHP
and MySQL are your best bets - in terms of the number of sites to choose
from. If they host ASP pages, then they probably force you into Access (or
charge you a lot for just one SQL Server database).
I come from a long ASP and VB background, but found that I can hold my own
with PHP. I'm not as efficient with PHP but doing OK.
--
DonB
http://www.gotodon.com/ccbth
"Bob K." <bob1030@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I'm planning on purchasing the Personal Studio version in the near future
> but before I do i'm trying to decide the utlity and future of the language
> options. I know this is a loaded question which will ellicit more
questions
> than I can answer so I'll give a brief outline of what I'm going to use it
> for.
>
> First, I'm not well versed in writing code although I've done some VB.
I'm
> pretty good with databases though. Second, I'm looking to create some
> basic database linked web pages with secure logons. Hopefully in time I
can
> expand this into a portal site with more than a few pages linked to a
single
> DB. I want something that is the up and coming technology as opposed to
> something on its way out or without a future. With that little bit of
info
> where can I go?
>
> Is .NET the future? What about ASP.NET or VB.NET or C#.NET? What about
ASP
> itself? PHP? JAVA?
>
> I know there are no simple answers to this but that's why I'm asking for
> opinions. I read somewhere in one the forums that MS would not be
> supporting ASP after 2006. How does this come into play?
>
> Also, thoughts on DB options is worthwhile since this will be a major
> compoment of this. I currently use Access but find that it crawls with
> even a moderate number of users. Since this project will be going online
> the potential for a higher number of users is realistic. I've heard that
> MySQL is pretty robust [and free] MS SQL is good but adds to the cost with
> user licensing. How does this choice influence the langauge options
above?
>
> I really appreciate the suggestions anyone is willing to offer.
>
> Many thanks for your time,
> Bob
>
>
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Bob K.
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| Posted: 02/05/2004, 11:17 AM |
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Thanks Don.
This is good advice and what I was looking for. Another question on this.
If I were to go with .NET either C# or VB would there be any limits on the
types of databases I could use. Would I be able to go with MySQL or Oracle
if I chose to instead of Access or MS SQL?
One ISP I was thinking of going with offers the following:
. PHP, Perl, XML, WinCGI & CGI-BIN
. ASP/ASP.NET, ColdFusion 5, or ColdFusion MX 6.1
. MS Access database support
. mySQL (25MB) database support
Thanks again,
Bob
"DonB" <~ccbth~@gotodon.com> wrote in message
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> With the assumption you plan to deploy to a commercial hosting service,
PHP
> and MySQL are your best bets - in terms of the number of sites to choose
> from. If they host ASP pages, then they probably force you into Access
(or
> charge you a lot for just one SQL Server database).
>
> I come from a long ASP and VB background, but found that I can hold my own
> with PHP. I'm not as efficient with PHP but doing OK.
>
> --
> DonB
>
> http://www.gotodon.com/ccbth
>
>
> "Bob K." <bob1030@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:bvs8j5$gui$3@news.codecharge.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm planning on purchasing the Personal Studio version in the near
future
> > but before I do i'm trying to decide the utlity and future of the
language
> > options. I know this is a loaded question which will ellicit more
> questions
> > than I can answer so I'll give a brief outline of what I'm going to use
it
> > for.
> >
> > First, I'm not well versed in writing code although I've done some VB.
> I'm
> > pretty good with databases though. Second, I'm looking to create some
> > basic database linked web pages with secure logons. Hopefully in time I
> can
> > expand this into a portal site with more than a few pages linked to a
> single
> > DB. I want something that is the up and coming technology as opposed to
> > something on its way out or without a future. With that little bit of
> info
> > where can I go?
> >
> > Is .NET the future? What about ASP.NET or VB.NET or C#.NET? What about
> ASP
> > itself? PHP? JAVA?
> >
> > I know there are no simple answers to this but that's why I'm asking for
> > opinions. I read somewhere in one the forums that MS would not be
> > supporting ASP after 2006. How does this come into play?
> >
> > Also, thoughts on DB options is worthwhile since this will be a major
> > compoment of this. I currently use Access but find that it crawls with
> > even a moderate number of users. Since this project will be going
online
> > the potential for a higher number of users is realistic. I've heard
that
> > MySQL is pretty robust [and free] MS SQL is good but adds to the cost
with
> > user licensing. How does this choice influence the langauge options
> above?
> >
> > I really appreciate the suggestions anyone is willing to offer.
> >
> > Many thanks for your time,
> > Bob
> >
> >
>
>
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Edd
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| Posted: 02/05/2004, 1:16 PM |
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Bob,
You can use any Database you like.
I actually think choosing a database is more binding than the language.
.NET is a great choice - so many developers coming on line - There are an estimated 20 million VB / ASP developers out there and as they all move to .NET you will get access to pretty powerfull stuff as will as all the Microsoft objects.
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disker
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| Posted: 02/05/2004, 5:50 PM |
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Thanks for the reply Ed, I appreciate your input. Was your company website created using Codecharge?
I'm kind of new to this having experience in Notes, Access, Frontpage, and a little VB but I feel the need to move ahead and get beyond the boilerplate concept. I would like to do a little creative web design with more function than the templates will generally allow. Going with something along the line of ASP.NET/VB seems to be the right direction unless I hear otherwise.
Thanks again,
Bob
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RogerR
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| Posted: 02/06/2004, 9:20 AM |
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From the "for what it's worth department" Bob. My background has been in VB and ASP development. I have changed completely to MySQL and PHP for the very simple reason that I want to keep my options open. I don't like the direction that MS is going and I certainly don't want to find myself locked into it if things go the way I thnk they will.
With MySQL and PHP I'm totally platform independent. I don't care what OS is being used my stuff can be setup and running with a mimal amount of fuss. With .Net I would be completely and totally at MS's mercy, a position I do not chose to put myself in.
Just my thoughts on the matter for what it's worth.
Roger R.
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disker
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| Posted: 02/06/2004, 9:56 AM |
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I appreciate the thoughts and totally understand the desire to be "trapped" in the MS game. There lies one of the dilemnas!
Thanks,
Bob
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