Cass
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| Posted: 08/08/2004, 6:38 PM |
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Hi again,
Just wanting to know if there are any experienced DW users out there who have an opinion on whether CSS is useful as a side tool, as a replacement for DW, or whether they find themselves going back to DW for most of their work? Is CSS flexible enough to create whole projects?
Many thanks in advance for your opinions,
Cass.
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| Posted: 08/09/2004, 5:06 PM |
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Cass,
I started from DW UD (ASP), discovered CC & bought it.
CCS came out & I bought it also.
CCS does - 90%-95% of everything, DW I use mostly for design & layouts as many other developers.
CCS & DW is a great combination
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Frank Rocco
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| Posted: 08/10/2004, 6:27 AM |
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I too use CCS & DW.
DW is great when it works, but I am currently having trouble getting DW
to run.
It just sits there with its splash screen on my Windows XP system.
Regards,
Frank
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> Cass,
> I started from DW UD (ASP), discovered CC & bought it.
> CCS came out & I bought it also.
> CCS does - 90%-95% of everything, DW I use mostly for design & layouts
as many
> other developers.
> CCS & DW is a great combination
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Ozum
Posts: 57
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| Posted: 08/11/2004, 12:34 AM |
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As most of the people use, I use Dreamweaver to edit visual layout of the templates.
Sometimes I use Dreamweaver templating system to update all templates of CCS.
I used DW several years, even before heard CCS. I have 5 favourite tool when combined they are like swiss army knife.
1. Dreamweaver
2. HomeSite
3. TopStyle Pro
4. OptiPerl
5. CodeChargeStudio
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Cass
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| Posted: 12/27/2004, 2:52 AM |
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Hi there again,
Thanks for everyone's replies. I am now testing out version 2.3.2.
I believe that the environment suits me better than Dreamweaver. The problem I find with DW MX 2004 is that it can be difficult mixing my code with some of the Macromedia server behaviours. With DW the Coldfusion integration is very good, but the ASP is a little 'loose'. In this I mean that the I have ended up hand-coding so much stuff, because the code for the ASP is a little 'spaghetti-like', especially when using assorted third-party extensions. In addition, it is easy to 'break' the functionality of the extensions without realising it.
I do not really know how this will comparre yet with CCS. From what I see after only a day of playing with it, the variable naming, functions and events triggers are fairly 'together', so that tying in my own custom code may end up a little more elegant. Elegance and speed of development do not always go hand-in hand, but maybe CCS is the best mix I have seen so far.
From what I see, I think CCS could just add a few more things to help with me being totally sold on this. Code completion, a few more built in 'snippets' (i.e.assorted javascript eye-candy functions like menus, etc), 'wizards' for shopping cart implementation, many-to-many relationships, dynamic dropdowns, master-detail stuff, dependent dropdowns, etc), and, even though I understand they ar not trying to compete with other editors, just a few more design-time tools would be great. Also, and maybe I just haven't found it yet, a concise list of available functions/variables/triggers/events that can be called/altered/overidden.
I don't want much do I?!
Do any of the other Dreamweaver users out there have any further thoughts. Like, even if you just use DW for the Html template design, how does that go with the CCS tags spread throughout. Is there ever any corruption of the tags, or anything I need to be careful of?
Any further comments on this would be much appreciated.
Thanks again for the comments made by Frank and Ozum so far.
Cheers,
Cass.
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Marcus
Posts: 49
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| Posted: 12/27/2004, 10:07 PM |
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As others, I use Dreamweaver or NOFusion to edit visual layout of the templates.
I've used DW (UltraDev) several years, long before CCS. These are my favorite tools, not necessarily in this order of preference:
1. Dreamweaver MX 2003 (HTML)
2. NetObjects fusion 7.5/8.0 (ASP/PHP)
3. OptiPerl Pro (great Perl IDE)
4. Codecharge2 and CodeChargeStudio2.3.2
5. TopStyle Pro
quote=Cass]
Hi there again,
Thanks for everyone's replies. I am now testing out version 2.3.2.
I believe that the environment suits me better than Dreamweaver. The problem I find with DW MX 2004 is that it can be difficult mixing my code with some of the Macromedia server behaviours. With DW the Coldfusion integration is very good, but the ASP is a little 'loose'. In this I mean that the I have ended up hand-coding so much stuff, because the code for the ASP is a little 'spaghetti-like', especially when using assorted third-party extensions. In addition, it is easy to 'break' the functionality of the extensions without realising it.
I do not really know how this will comparre yet with CCS. From what I see after only a day of playing with it, the variable naming, functions and events triggers are fairly 'together', so that tying in my own custom code may end up a little more elegant. Elegance and speed of development do not always go hand-in hand, but maybe CCS is the best mix I have seen so far.
From what I see, I think CCS could just add a few more things to help with me being totally sold on this. Code completion, a few more built in 'snippets' (i.e.assorted javascript eye-candy functions like menus, etc), 'wizards' for shopping cart implementation, many-to-many relationships, dynamic dropdowns, master-detail stuff, dependent dropdowns, etc), and, even though I understand they ar not trying to compete with other editors, just a few more design-time tools would be great. Also, and maybe I just haven't found it yet, a concise list of available functions/variables/triggers/events that can be called/altered/overidden.
I don't want much do I?!
Do any of the other Dreamweaver users out there have any further thoughts. Like, even if you just use DW for the Html template design, how does that go with the CCS tags spread throughout. Is there ever any corruption of the tags, or anything I need to be careful of?
Any further comments on this would be much appreciated.
Thanks again for the comments made by Frank and Ozum so far.
Cheers,
Cass.
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