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mike2
Posted: 09/03/2004, 6:59 AM

hello,
is it possible to run an mdse database with Codecharge??
thanks
kurt
Karsten


Posts: 57
Posted: 09/03/2004, 7:14 AM

i did not try this myself, but normaly you can use any
database wich can be access by an ODBC driver and msde can be connected by an ODBC driver. so it should work.

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DonB
Posted: 09/03/2004, 10:27 AM

Yes. MSDE is the "core" of MS SQL Server, however, with limitations that
you might find unacceptable for a web application. Most significantly, it
limits the number of concurrent connections to 5. Beyond these factors, you
can treat MSDE as if it is SQL Server.

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"mike2" <mike2@forum.codecharge> wrote in message
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> hello,
> is it possible to run an mdse database with Codecharge??
> thanks
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Posted: 09/03/2004, 10:43 AM

Minor correction: I recently had to look this up and I think that MSDE allows 25 concurrent users (connections), per http://www.microsoft.com/sql/evaluation/overview/default.asp
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DonB
Posted: 09/03/2004, 10:10 PM

Hmmm, who do we believe :-)?
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/?url=/library/en-us/a....asp?frame=true

The good news is that the SQL Server Express (that will appear soon) has no
connection limitation/degradation mechanism whatsoever.
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"peterr" <peterr@forum.codecharge> wrote in message
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> Minor correction: I recently had to look this up and I think that MSDE
allows 25
> concurrent users (connections), per
> http://www.microsoft.com/sql/evaluation/overview/default.asp
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Karsten


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Posted: 09/03/2004, 10:22 PM

i would NEVER jail myself into M$ , especially if it comes to
decent things like DATA :-)
mysql rules*g


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BlinkyBill

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Posted: 09/03/2004, 11:44 PM

Quote Karsten:
i would NEVER jail myself into M$ , especially if it comes to
decent things like DATA :-)
mysql rules*g



While I don't want to get into a holly war ove this. Statements like are just ill-informed. Comparing mysql to sql server is like comparing a volkswagen beetle to a mack truck. Sql Server supports grown up things like, stored procs, user defined functions, triggers, constraints, replication, etl functions etc etc. MySQL while suited to the small to medium end of the market does not yet have the features most of the big boys want. Most will just use Sql Server or Oracle on larger projects.

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BlinkyBill

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Posted: 09/03/2004, 11:47 PM

Quote DonB:
Hmmm, who do we believe :-)?
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/?url=/library/en-us/a....asp?frame=true

The good news is that the SQL Server Express (that will appear soon) has no
connection limitation/degradation mechanism whatsoever.
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This is the "query governor" in action, it is an artificial restriction in place to "encourage" customers to buy Sql Server. I believe Sql Server Express may not be licenced for production use, only for development purposes. It may be worth looking this up. Also the query governor can be "turned off". You will need to search this info, but it can definatgely be done.
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DonB
Posted: 09/04/2004, 10:04 AM

I find it hard to take anyone seriously when they must resort to the cliched
"M$" symbol to make a point. Buy if you like, don't buy if you don't.
There have never been any thugs at my doorstep forcing me to purchase a
Microsoft product.

Until mySQL can get around to providing triggers, ref integrity, views,
stored procedures, transactions, job scheduling and data transformation
services, there will be a very conspicuous place for SQL Server in many
applications. Therein lies the problem with free software - it evolves at
the leisure and convenience of those writing it. In truth, Postgres is way
more advanced than mySQL, and it's free as well.

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"Karsten" <Karsten@forum.codecharge> wrote in message
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> i would NEVER jail myself into M$ , especially if it comes to
> decent things like DATA :-)
> mysql rules*g
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DonB
Posted: 09/04/2004, 10:06 AM

and the other good news is the web-based admin tool!

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"BlinkyBill" <BlinkyBill@forum.codecharge> wrote in message
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Quote DonB:
> Hmmm, who do we believe :-)?
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/?url=/library/en-us/a....asp?frame=true
>
> The good news is that the SQL Server Express (that will appear soon) has
no
> connection limitation/degradation mechanism whatsoever.
> --
> DonB
>
>
>
> This is the "query governor" in action, it is an artificial restriction in
> place to "encourage" customers to buy Sql Server. I believe Sql Server
Express
> may not be licenced for production use, only for development purposes. It
may
> be worth looking this up. Also the query governor can be "turned off". You
will
> need to search this info, but it can definatgely be done.
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glerma

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Posted: 09/04/2004, 12:23 PM

Don't forget that there is a 2GB data file-size limitation for MSDE. Once you get to that limit, you must install the SQL Server enterprise edition (licensed) to go beyond it.
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BlinkyBill

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Posted: 09/05/2004, 6:06 AM

Quote glerma:
Don't forget that there is a 2GB data file-size limitation for MSDE. Once you get to that limit, you must install the SQL Server enterprise edition (licensed) to go beyond it.

SQL Server 2000 Standard Edition will be fine and alot cheaper than Enterprise Edition.
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Benjamin Krajmalnik
Posted: 09/07/2004, 4:52 PM

Karsten,

You amaze me. While you obviously hate MS and everything they stand for:

1. They rule the desktop
2. Their technical support is second to none in the business
3. They get a bad security rap - most of the security issues are because of
incompetent people in charge of running the servers

You can't compare MS SQL to MySQL. Don't get me wrong - I use MySQL and
love it - but it is essntially an SQL interpreter over ISAM. I cannot come
close to doing the things I do in SQL Server with MySQL. If the problem is
one of $$$ (and, BTW, MySQL is no longer free!), there are other free
databases available which have a richer featureset than MySQL. PostgreSQL
and Firebird come to mind.


Karsten


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Posted: 09/07/2004, 11:40 PM

Benjamin,

1. i dont hate MS and everything they stand for.
2. i wont, neighter i did compare MS SQL <-> MySQL
3. i use MySQL because i never had a problem with it, with MS SQL i had much problems in the past

4. i think most users use microsoft products because of the easier use
(any little noob can start and "use" MS Access for example), thats GOOD
so they stay on their side and i stay on my side.

have a nice day

Karsten from germany


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