Edd
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| Posted: 11/01/2005, 2:47 PM |
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CCS does the best job in the world when it comes to their code generator, however, it is NOT a tool for all things, and to be truthful even version 3.0 will not eliminate any of my current 3rd Party Plug-ins.
I would love to see some cross solution productivity tools for the more mature users, instead of we poor people needing to reinvent the wheel. And to be realistic I am willing to pay for it.
I would like to see an alliance with 3rd parties (not one but multiples) for:
1. Date/Time picker
2. AjaxCombobox
3. Ajax Grid Control.
4. Menus
5. HTML Editor
6. Documentation Tools
7. Help Tools
8. Print Tools to PDF for screens.
9. Tools incorporate into major players such as Sharepoint, etc.
10. Tree Controls
I would like to see a poll after version 3.0 is implemented where people can vote for their favourite 3rd party tool and Yes Software could act upon it if it was commercially viable.
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blankenb
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| Posted: 11/01/2005, 4:34 PM |
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I'd like to second that request;
For a FREE help tool please check out: HelpMaker at http://www.vizacc.com/gen_download.php;
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Andres Rormoser
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| Posted: 11/15/2005, 9:55 AM |
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Me too
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I'd like to second that request;
For a FREE help tool please check out: HelpMaker at
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marcwolf
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| Posted: 11/15/2005, 3:25 PM |
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I agree with the list.
However - many of us have done amy of the above over time.
For example I have been using a AJAX variant with iframes and currenltly migrating it to using JSON (like Ajax with the httpXMLrequest but with JS code passed back and executed rather than XML)
We have had a lot of success with FCKEditor esp with holding the formatted text in a hidden textbox and also displaying it in a DIV so that the user can see the styles etc.
With the AJAX grid - the same can be applied to the above mentioned listbox. Just remeber to pass back the ROW ID so that the returning values can be assigned to the correct conteols. and we have done this as well. Also in forum here
With the PDF - I found a group called BroadGun http://www.broadgun.com/
thats hat a very powerful tool that can take a HTML file and convert it into a PDF very easily. Just get CCS to output the completed template to a text file and convert that
There is a wealth of information in the fomum here that covers many of the above solutions. Perhaps a the need should be an easier way of packaging and distributing the above idea's in a component form.
I'd love to do that but am still getting my thought around XLS etc
Hope it helps
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Edd
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| Posted: 11/15/2005, 9:19 PM |
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Dave,
Only through discussion and sharing can we get the best for bits for all of us.
Many thanks for the Broadgun link - have you generated this from Dynamic pages using CCS. Prining is a bitch on the web and even CCS 3.0 offerings are limited. I have tried them all amd MS Reporting services is the only one which seems to have the greatest future for what I am doing.
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marcwolf
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| Posted: 11/16/2005, 3:25 PM |
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Hi Edd
Re the BroadGun.. Yes I have but there is better reporting options available that I will discuss in a second.
We have a situation where wh have a LOT of dynamic pages. We have modified one of our pages so that the HTMP templates are loaded in and then have generic fields filled out on them. A HTML Label can contain a whole swag of text 
With the above we can generate entire websites just by calling one page and having the CCS output the HTML to a file rather than streaming it to the browser. At thispoint we can also make the PDF of the file.
The same can happen just for simple reports i,e, CCS 3.0 for the reporting enging.
For a much more advanced solutions we use the following. Its best if you have your own server for it to due to the nature of what it does. Most IPS etc don;t want to install MS-Access on a server.
The product is http:///ssw//
It runs MS-Access as a service and will take in report requests from the web and run a MS-Access report, outputting it as EXL, DOC, RTF, PDF, Snapshop and PDF. With PDF they use GhostScript rather than Acrobat. We actually gave them the DLL to do this  )
Although MS-Access is a single threading application it still works very well in this environment and we have never had any trouble with it.
Most reports only take a couple of seconds to run and the server app watches for errors and timeout very well.
Of course developing ones reports in Ms-Access is great as you have the report deisgner plus VB6 backing you up. We have reports that have verticle and horizontal text plus barcodes - and then are all done using DLL's and OCX's. And the output look beautiful too.
You can down load this application for trialing from the above link.
It may not be Crystal for speed and volume - but at one tenth of the price is is an excellent and robust solution. Single Server License is about $400 or so and an enterprize license is about $1500. Compared to Crystal for $10,000+ it's cheap.
Also - any database MS-Access can link into can be used.. Even if the DB's are from different servers/Suppliers. It just uses ODBC.
Hope the above helps...
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| Posted: 11/16/2005, 3:27 PM |
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Sorry - the link got lost for the reporter
http:/// ssw//
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| Posted: 11/16/2005, 3:28 PM |
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This is crazy.. I cannot post the link.. ok here it is long hand
http: slash slash slash SSW slash
Take care..
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marcwolf
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| Posted: 11/16/2005, 3:30 PM |
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http:///ssw//
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| Posted: 11/16/2005, 3:32 PM |
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Sorry folks.. I'm happy to give the link via email or PM
Whenever I type the code in or the name of the company this editor drops it..
the company is SSW COM AU and look for their access rpoering ending
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| Posted: 11/16/2005, 4:25 PM |
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Dave,
I wrote my own version of what SSW uses and it overlayed MS Access and Crystal Reports - the thing that I liked about the SSW product was that they did use the Ghostscript - I used Dane Prairie (expensive but clean). I also liked how they used a TCPIP Pipe to communicate report requests. My problem was a couple of my comments would not let me add COM objects (IT politics).
My client use windows and Crystal as their main reporting tool so I have had to bridge that and seems to work reasonably well, except that when you move to Crystal on the web it is like digging a hole for yourself.
Take a look at MS Reporting services 2005 they are delivering reports instantaneously through a ActiveX object. Very, very nice... And since you get reporting services with MS SQL Standard - a nice method to get away Crystal (as you can tell I am NOT a fan).
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| Posted: 11/16/2005, 7:33 PM |
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Hi Edd
Thanks for the comments.
Before I found SSW I also did the same. It waorked quiet well but I also did not have a pipeline to queue the requests.
SSW GhostScript story is interesting. A while back for a contract I wrote a DLL wrapper for GhostScript that looked exactly like the Acrobat one. The client was happy for me to keep the code as it was technically under GPL.
When I found SSW I offered them the code and the DLL and thus we now have GhostScript in SSW.
I'll have a look at the MS Reporting Services. We don;t use MS-SQL but rather MySQL. Far cheaper and with Version 5 released now there are very few features that ones needs that are in MS-SQL
We did do some looking at MS-SQL but almost died when we found the pricing. And having to deal with the MS Licensing division is a minefield.
With MySQL its simple. Your in the web - its basically free otherwise about $400. And no client/Web enabling/processor/raiding etc licensing issues
(As a sideline I tried to get a answer from MS re licensing of our Server with a mirrored HD. You need 2 licenses as theoretically each HD has a copy of the server software on it - the when one lookks at RAID 5 its a real nightmare)
Take Care
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