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alanvee

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Posted: 01/02/2006, 7:24 AM

It appears that grids built with the Application Builder and othe Builers do NOT put a Cancel button on grids where data can be altered. This is Bad Programming as this puts the user in a situation where there is no CLEAR way out. Yes - they can do an EDIT and make no changes, but this is a rather poor choice and not really intuitive.

A user may go into a Customer detail page from a grid-list of customers, only to view finer details of that Customer. It appears with the current setup in CCS3 that the user gets no CLEAR and SAFE way to leave that window/page and return to the previous grid. A Cancel Button would provide that path.

=Alan R.
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Posted: 01/11/2006, 5:20 PM

Quote alanvee:
It appears that grids built with the Application Builder and othe Builers do NOT put a Cancel button on grids where data can be altered. This is Bad Programming as this puts the user in a situation where there is no CLEAR way out. Yes - they can do an EDIT and make no changes, but this is a rather poor choice and not really intuitive.

A user may go into a Customer detail page from a grid-list of customers, only to view finer details of that Customer. It appears with the current setup in CCS3 that the user gets no CLEAR and SAFE way to leave that window/page and return to the previous grid. A Cancel Button would provide that path.

=Alan R.

I aggre, it should be there by default.

You can add it. Copy the Delete button and under DATA, change the button name to Button_Cancel, Operation to cancel, Under Format, Change the src to /path/ButtonCancel.gif

This is what worked for mr.

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Walter Kempees
Posted: 01/11/2006, 5:33 PM

I Totally agree, even in CCS2 this was needed.
The Cancel Button should be present default, and have it's DefaultButton
set.

The way to add it :
In Design view position your cursor where you want the button, then from the
Form Toolbox click Button.
The Button will appear, click it and in Properties of the button change the
name to Cancel_Button and set the Operation to Cancel.
Optionally set DefaultButton to Yes.
In the Format Properties change Value to Cancel.

That's it.


"DJJWP" <DJJWP@forum.codecharge> schreef in bericht
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>
Quote alanvee:
> It appears that grids built with the Application Builder and othe Builers
> do
> NOT put a Cancel button on grids where data can be altered. This is Bad
> Programming as this puts the user in a situation where there is no CLEAR
> way
> out. Yes - they can do an EDIT and make no changes, but this is a rather
> poor
> choice and not really intuitive.
>
> A user may go into a Customer detail page from a grid-list of customers,
> only
> to view finer details of that Customer. It appears with the current setup
> in
> CCS3 that the user gets no CLEAR and SAFE way to leave that window/page
> and
> return to the previous grid. A Cancel Button would provide that path.
>
> =Alan R.
>
>
> I aggre, it should be there by default.
>
> You can add it. Copy the Delete button and under DATA, change the button
> name
> to Button_Cancel, Operation to cancel, Under Format, Change the src to
> /path/ButtonCancel.gif
>
> This is what worked for mr.
>
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> http://forums.codecharge.com/
>

Walter Kempees
Posted: 01/11/2006, 6:06 PM

My omission, oversight:

In CCS3.
New Page
From the toolbox,
RecordBuilder Step 3 of 4, check Include Cancel Button;
Grid and RecordBuilder Step 7 of 8
and so on!
That's all.

Also NOTE the possibility to set the Delete Confirmation on.

Still agree the boxes should be checked by Default and Cancel should be
Default button by default.




"Walter Kempees" <kempe819@planet.nl> schreef in bericht
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>I Totally agree, even in CCS2 this was needed.
> The Cancel Button should be present default, and have it's DefaultButton
> set.
>
> The way to add it :
> In Design view position your cursor where you want the button, then from
> the Form Toolbox click Button.
> The Button will appear, click it and in Properties of the button change
> the name to Cancel_Button and set the Operation to Cancel.
> Optionally set DefaultButton to Yes.
> In the Format Properties change Value to Cancel.
>
> That's it.
>
>
> "DJJWP" <DJJWP@forum.codecharge> schreef in bericht
>news:2243c5aedb37a7c@news.codecharge.com...
>>
Quote alanvee:
>> It appears that grids built with the Application Builder and othe Builers
>> do
>> NOT put a Cancel button on grids where data can be altered. This is Bad
>> Programming as this puts the user in a situation where there is no CLEAR
>> way
>> out. Yes - they can do an EDIT and make no changes, but this is a rather
>> poor
>> choice and not really intuitive.
>>
>> A user may go into a Customer detail page from a grid-list of customers,
>> only
>> to view finer details of that Customer. It appears with the current setup
>> in
>> CCS3 that the user gets no CLEAR and SAFE way to leave that window/page
>> and
>> return to the previous grid. A Cancel Button would provide that path.
>>
>> =Alan R.
>>
>>
>> I aggre, it should be there by default.
>>
>> You can add it. Copy the Delete button and under DATA, change the button
>> name
>> to Button_Cancel, Operation to cancel, Under Format, Change the src to
>> /path/ButtonCancel.gif
>>
>> This is what worked for mr.
>>
>> ---------------------------------------
>> Sent from YesSoftware forum
>> http://forums.codecharge.com/
>>
>
>

Walter Kempees
Posted: 01/11/2006, 6:46 PM

My omission, oversight:

In CCS3.
New Page.
First: Note the checkbox "Save builder options" on step 1 of each Wizard.
On the New Blank Page, from the toolbox choose for instance RecordBuilder
In Step 3 of 4, check the "Include Cancel Button" option.
The generated Record Form will now contain the Cancel Button by default.
And because you checked "Save Builder Options" from now on every
RecordBuilder will include Cancel Button.
This goes for the other Builders too, where applicable.

That's all.

Also NOTE the possibility to set the Delete Confirmation on.

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DJJWP


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Posted: 01/11/2006, 7:24 PM

Step 2 has the save builder options, got that.
I do not see any thing else.

I do see an "add a clear" option under advanced...

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Walter Kempees
Posted: 01/11/2006, 9:17 PM

DJWW
You are using the Application builder where I am describing the various
Toolbox Builders.
For the Application builder you are right the options are not there.

The "add a clear" is not the Cancel operation, merely resetting the Search
fields to blank.


"DJJWP" <DJJWP@forum.codecharge> schreef in bericht
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> Step 2 has the save builder options, got that.
> I do not see any thing else.
>
> I do see an "add a clear" option under advanced...
>
> Using 3.0.2.1 with PHP, Personal Ed
> ---------------------------------------
> Sent from YesSoftware forum
> http://forums.codecharge.com/
>


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