optron
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| Posted: 10/17/2006, 3:12 PM |
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Since I installed CCS everyonce a while I'm strugling with performance problems. Last time I had a problem I removed firewall software which seem to interact with CCS. After I did so CCS was performing ok for some time, then again after a week all of the sudden it came back to the state it was impossible to work with. I did a system restore to the previous day and everything went back to normal. The funny thing is that I haven't made any changes/updates/installations to the system. Despite of that CCS went wild!. Then it worked fine for about 4-5 days, then it had happened again. I tried to restore system seetings but it didn't help this time. It really drives me crazy wasting my time trying to figure out what the problem is. I use other web tools i.e. FrontPage, Dreamweaver, NetObjects along with several other programing tools. None of them causes any performance problems !!!
I've seen people complaining on this forum about the problem, and despite there could be number of causes, for this, I think that CCS should be more resistant to smoething like this. Just a simple question arises - why other tools do not have any performance problems ?
I don't know how CCS is hooked up to Win Registry but there is something that has to be done for the future. I was just almost ready to order the product (as I'm still testing it), and at this point I'm just step away from choosing another product, just because of some issues that listed as follows:
- performance problems
- poor product documentation
- no examples to deeply explain product features
- no third-party components
- no SDK (which I think was promissed long time ago)
- no product related literatures, magazzines etc.
So far I estimated that 30-50% of my time is spent on learning to use the tool, and 20-30% strugling with the problems, not related to programing or development. If CCS claims be 4th Generation Development Tool, it has to take into consideration all users notes, requests and suggestions, to compete with other tools. Personaly I this that implementing product stability is much more important then implementing ne features.
I'm wondering if others share this opinion, and what Yes Software has to say about this. So far I see only one person from the company supporting this forum and (with all respect to you Peterr) it narrows down the point of view at certain topics. I would really like to see more support people involve into this forum.
I would have to make soon my final decission as to what development tool to choose the upcoming decade, and at the moment it doesn't look like it would be CCS. I think the CCS concept is great, but still the tool needs a lot of polishing to get mature.
Art
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| Posted: 10/17/2006, 7:04 PM |
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aklisiewicz, what you wrote may be your own experience. Though CCS has limitations,
I do think it is a great tool as far as WEB RAD tool is concerned.
I mainly use my home made php framework for web development in order to cooperate
with others in our department, through CCS's document and online demo I learned a lot
about web programming. For instance,Have you found any EditGrid better than CCS's.
I once thought using Ajax, after study CCS's Editgrid demo I found it had an even better user response.
CCS's IDE is also great, sometime you may try to find a solution, after study the document
you will surprisingly find it already there.
Never complain about this forum, if you read the posts here carefully, you are for sure
to learn a lot.
Best Regards!
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peterr
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| Posted: 10/17/2006, 9:02 PM |
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Quote aklisiewicz:what Yes Software has to say about this.
The company doesn't respond via forums and you would need to contact YesSoftware directly with questions directed to the company. As you probably realize by now these are user forums and I participate just like anyone else, although I also act as a moderator.
Quote aklisiewicz:I would really like to see more support people involve into this forum.
CCS support staff is accessible at http://support.yessoftware.com, while these forums here were not designated as support forums. Thanks for your suggestion however.
I'm not sure if you want me to comment on your performance problems especially that you may already know my answer: "please contact product support."
However, possibly I or someone else could address this problem in little more detail if you were more specific. You mention "some" performance problems but don't explain what they are...
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Arthur
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| Posted: 10/17/2006, 10:35 PM |
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well, I just created a new page using record builder. Guess what ?
It took 12 min. to apply styles and put all components on the page after I clicked FINISH button. 
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| Posted: 10/18/2006, 1:57 AM |
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Hi Arthur,
Which Programming language are you using? Operating system? Database? Computer specs? etc
How many fields with recordbuilder? Query's? Please give us specifics so that maybe someone in the forum can help you.
Rene S
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LK
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| Posted: 10/18/2006, 2:19 AM |
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I' have been using code charge since 6 month ago, and its good product but i still have a problem with report with milion of data. the report can't display and have error eof 2889
but after i tune up with better sql code and manualy code using sql not using a table it's getting better. first i did not relize this problem with small data but with big data request u must see your sql code in gethering the data.
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SamJolly
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| Posted: 10/18/2006, 4:35 AM |
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Hi aklisiewicz,
CodeCharge is certainly a very useful tool and appropriate for certain uses. Out of interest what tool would you put above CodeCharge?
Sam
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RoyBaird
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| Posted: 10/18/2006, 11:12 AM |
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All, I have been using CCS for almost 3 years now. ASP with VB templates against a SQL Server database. It is the greatest RAD tool I have ever seen, and with over 30 years in this business, I have seen a lot. It does stump it's toe every once in a while and closes, but that could be MS caused too. My database is small, so maybe that is why it works so well for me. 
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wkempees
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| Posted: 10/18/2006, 11:42 AM |
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Php, MySQL
Although I am currently experiencing a problem with reportbuilder on a large table 6Mio+ rows,
to have fast result, if one was to abandon CCS because of such a minor glitch, one would be missing out on a great tool, time saving, RAD Development Environment.
Art, I would invest time and effort (with support) to solve your (startup) problems.
Invest in the docs and the info in these fora, that in combination with your skills will soon show you you have taken the right route.
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robertmann
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| Posted: 10/18/2006, 12:32 PM |
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Art
If only performance problems are holding you up then I recommend not giving up. Many people use CCS without major difficulties and I hope you will resolve your difficulties.
However if lack of good examples and magazines and public support etc are major problems for you then my advice to you would be to give up and not use CCS. CCS has more useful examples than any other product I have seen and a good number of experts helping on the forums. If these are not enough then no amount of examples or support people will matter.
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mamboBROWN
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| Posted: 10/18/2006, 2:56 PM |
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Arthur
What is your system setup??memory??intel or amd?? Have you contacted support?? Are you still having issues??
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| Posted: 10/18/2006, 8:24 PM |
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You don;t happen to have IE7 installed, do you?
A few days ago, every single machine in our office which had IE7 installed
exhibited poor performance.
I spent a few hours troubleshooting a non-issue because one of my testers
decided that he was ging to test with IE7 and did not let me know.
Just a thought.
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mrachow
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| Posted: 10/19/2006, 1:14 AM |
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Art,
one thing I would give a try is an in deep check of your hard disk.
I can't agree with
Quote :poor product documentation
Documentation respectively online help is complete and at very least useful.
Quote :no examples to deeply explain product features
There are 7 example projects and the example packs one and two which just do that.
The manual Examples and Techniques is very useful in that respect.
Quote :no third-party components
Studio uses components for email, upload, and HTML edit. It integrates into Frontpage. So I see it bounded to the outer world.
Quote :no product related literatures, magazzines etc.
At first I don't think Studio could be blamend for that. In addition there was a try to establish a magazine CCS Developer and I read about a book mainly on builders here at the forum. There are website of long term users of Studio
http://www.gotodon.net/ccbth/
http://rexdesign.com/ccs/
http://www.vision.to/CMS/Home/index.php
http://www.devdata.de/codechargestudio.php
to name some.
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peterr
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| Posted: 10/23/2006, 12:57 PM |
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The problem has been identified as being caused by this CCS crack: http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3421175
A legal copy of CCS doesn't have such problem according to our knowledge.
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Edd
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| Posted: 10/23/2006, 3:31 PM |
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Good on you "Yes Software".
Another good reason for people to register who use the forum.
What a waste of time and resouces on helping IDIOTS. Here we have people trying to make money out of developong software and won't pay for the best development tool going around.
My 2 cents.
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robertmann
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| Posted: 10/23/2006, 3:51 PM |
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Amazing. This explains why Art was bothering everybody here instead of support. Now take a look at this http://groups.google.com/group/pl.comp.nowe-programy/br...5ef4e3895d3128b
translation: where and how can I find ColdFusion crack?
What a jerk!
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E43509
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| Posted: 10/23/2006, 6:49 PM |
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Sorry Art ... the best advice on your issue is to go back to some primitive lackluster software as this product is too good for you. Pony up some bucks in the future or learn HTML and write your code in notepad (notepad doesn' t require illegal crack, it's free with windows ... but oh maybe your copy of windows is also pirated)
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marcwolf
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| Posted: 10/23/2006, 8:26 PM |
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<Chuckles>
Yes Art - give up with the cracks. The CSS team are VERY clever in implementing a slow degrading of the cracked product.
I remeber when I was trialling (and work commitments caused me to run over the 20 days) I tried to use a crack to give me a little more time. Was interesdting to see how many tricks CCS started to bring up.
Anyway - once I was convinved how good the product was I got my boss to get the full version.
I am against piracy however sometimes 20 days can be too little time to do a full evaluation of a product - esp when you have other work to do as well.
Take Care
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optron
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| Posted: 10/23/2006, 11:12 PM |
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I used a demo version for some time and had performance problem. Then - yes - after 20days I tried a cracked one, not because I opt for piracy, but because trial period is to short. Finally I ordered full licenced version and guess what: installed on one machine and the problem has changed only up to certain point. that is: CCS works faster, however code generation is still unacceptable, so it is not related to that. I'm going to try to cleanup registry and do some other maintenance to see if this would help, then I will try on my notebook and will see. Thanks for your all suggestions, also on using a Notepad
Art
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lwismanuel
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| Posted: 10/24/2006, 12:19 AM |
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I got to admit that dude has some big cojones trying to get help on something that he is violating the copy right.
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