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beshoo

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Posted: 11/10/2007, 1:35 PM

Dear support :
i report that Autocomplete has some problem with Firefox, today i opened this page :
http://examples.codecharge.com/Ajax/Autocomplete.php

and it seem work with no problem ! did you cange any thing ?

any way that is nice BUT i note some thing important sins i am a keyboard man ! :)

try to type "h" Helen name well appear :) heloo Helen , Ok try to to select Helen name *by keyboard * not by mouse and press Enter , a space was entered in the Text box not Helen name , so we may have problem ! keyboard selection most be active to !
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JimmyCrackedCorn

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Posted: 11/10/2007, 1:42 PM

Quote ducati996guy:
Hi Guys,

In IE7 on my machine, the three dependant listbox example causes IE to close down without notice. To duplicate, select automotive, then wrecking. This gives no result in the Company listbox.

Now go and change the sub category listbox to Accessories and IE silently closes. Doesnt seem to happen in Firefox. Anyone else seeing this behaviour?

Thanks
David

The first issue you report, "no result in the Company listbox" is by design; they simply did not make every option in the example work completely (that's why they tell you in the instructions which ones to choose).

For your second issue I tried your steps and IE7 does not close on my system.
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ckroon

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Posted: 11/10/2007, 3:58 PM

Question about Ajax Services

I have a school database that has a lot of pages where teachers select a student from a grid, then update data in a record form.

If I switch all of these to update panels, will the end result be a faster server or a slower server?


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Stanj

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Posted: 11/10/2007, 4:38 PM

Quote ckroon:
Question about Ajax Services

If I switch all of these to update panels, will the end result be a faster server or a slower server?

Most queries against the database unless unually complex, return results very quickly. The majority of time required to present the page containing the data is sending transmitting the full page HTML code including images. By having the page not refresh, just the data, the slowest part of the process not done; painting an complete new page. There should be a noticable im,provement in user experience when the page does not need to be regenerated. My initial test on a simple query for selecting 1 record from a table with 10 fields suggests that there is a substantial speed up when not regenerating the entire page. Besides, it just looks cooler....and cool is good according to users, it reminds them of their desktop applications.

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peterr


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Posted: 11/10/2007, 9:28 PM

Some comments in regards to visual speed of Ajax applications:

- Using Ajax may produce visual delays since retrieving data takes short but visible amount of time, plus JavaScript used in Ajax also may need short time to execute. Therefore Ajax may not be best for every situation, although often it can be more robust then refreshing the whole page during each data update, sorting & navigation.

- We're temporarily using a slow virtual server for the live prototype demos, while the results should be faster on better hardware.

- Some of our examples like Autocomplete/Autofill retrieve image URLs via an Ajax service, which also takes additional time for the Web browser to retrieve and display those images.

- It may be still possible to improve the speed of Ajax services and we plan to research additional related ideas before or shortly after releasing CCS 4.0.

- I'd personally expect ASP.NET applications to be much faster with Ajax since .NET applications are compiled and execution time can be 10x faster than PHP, for example. (though I haven't tested this yet in terms of Ajax)

- Internally, using Ajax can put higher load on the Web server, depending on Ajax features being used. For example the Autocomplete feature may access the corresponding Ajax service several times as the user is typing an entry, while in standard applications this might be a simple listbox populated just once within the page.
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JimmyCrackedCorn

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Posted: 11/11/2007, 1:24 PM

great points about Ajax Peter. that is why is is absolutely imperative that some sort of loading indicator be activated very near the action so the user knows something is happening.
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advcomputer

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Posted: 11/11/2007, 1:41 PM

Peter,

AJAX is wonderful and is very welcome to see in the product. Several months ago I started a thread on "concurreny control" instead of the current "last save win's scenerio".

Has there been any work on concurreny control and it so, when wil it be released and in which version?

Keep up the great work,

Jeff
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Jan K. van Dalen
Posted: 11/11/2007, 2:55 PM

Agree ...

"JimmyCrackedCorn" <JimmyCrackedCorn@forum.codecharge> wrote in message
news:2473773250931d@news.codecharge.com...
> great points about Ajax Peter. that is why is is absolutely imperative
> that some
> sort of loading indicator be activated very near the action so the user
> knows
> something is happening.
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wkempees
Posted: 11/12/2007, 3:08 AM

Quote :
"ckroon" <ckroon@forum.codecharge> schreef in bericht
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> Question about Ajax Services
>
> I have a school database that has a lot of pages where teachers select a
> student from a grid, then update data in a record form.
>
> If I switch all of these to update panels, will the end result be a faster
> server or a slower server?
>
>

The Grid -> Record Form paradigm is the one to use if action is as
described.
If however in the record form you need to lookup for instance the full
course name to a course code, or more details to a course code, Ajax would
be nice to implement.
Walter

Intexk

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Posted: 11/13/2007, 1:52 AM

oks...2 things after testing the preview :
1)i found that if u had a gallery component allready done in vb .net codecharge can't extract the numberofcolumns property as numeric...and produces one error...if u redo the component the problem vanish.

2) this is more complex so i will put an snipshet of code generated...
When u create one event in javascript over one object...and that object is in a header page
It creates a function for example:

function page_NewRecord1_empresa_id_OnChange()
{
}


but it bind the event with another name...


addEventHandler("HeaderNewRecord1empresa_id", "change", Header_NewRecord1_empresa_id_OnChange);


making fckeditor and other allready custom code i had done....to break.


there is the whole snipset...
//page_NewRecord1_empresa_id_OnChange @50-49E4A0F2
function page_NewRecord1_empresa_id_OnChange()
{
var result;
//End page_NewRecord1_empresa_id_OnChange

//Custom Code @54-2A29BDB7
// -------------------------
// Write your own code here.
// -------------------------
document.getElementById("Header_NewRecord1Button_Search").click();
//End Custom Code

//Close page_NewRecord1_empresa_id_OnChange @50-BC33A33A
return result;
}
//End Close page_NewRecord1_empresa_id_OnChange

//page_NewRecord1_Button_Search_OnClick @53-F4C0BB53
function page_NewRecord1_Button_Search_OnClick()
{
disableValidation = true;
}
//End page_NewRecord1_Button_Search_OnClick

//bind_events @1-5D286C0B
function Header_bind_events() {
addEventHandler("HeaderNewRecord1empresa_id", "change", Header_NewRecord1_empresa_id_OnChange);
addEventHandler("HeaderNewRecord1Button_Search", "click", Header_NewRecord1_Button_Search_OnClick);
check_and_bind('theForm.Header_NewRecord1empresa_id','onchange',page_NewRecord1_empresa_id_OnChange);
check_and_bind('theForm.Header_NewRecord1Button_Search','onclick',page_NewRecord1_Button_Search_OnClick);
}
//End bind_events
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peterr


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Posted: 11/15/2007, 2:00 PM

JimmyCrackedCorn,

> that is why is is absolutely imperative that some sort of loading indicator be activated very near the action so the user knows something is happening.

You will be able to do this and a lot more.
Our examples are showing just a few things that can be done with Ajax.
Also, on fast server such indicator can decrease usability, since something is flashing on the screen and users cannot see what it was. I recommend testing with your own environment.
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RonB

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Posted: 11/15/2007, 2:28 PM

the beta keeps telling me to install flashplayer when I push flashchart builder. I installed the thing twice now so is there a way to make this work? I probably overlooked something simple but I can't get it to work.
:-)

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peterr


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Posted: 11/15/2007, 2:59 PM

Ron,

I haven't seen this happening, but will notify our team. Thanks.
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mikekangks

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Posted: 11/15/2007, 4:25 PM

Peterr,

Like Ron, I've installed flash player a few times but still getting the message to install flash player.

For info, it's on Win 2003 Serrver.

Michael K.
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Stanj

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Posted: 11/16/2007, 8:19 AM

Quote peterr:
.....the Beta release of the new CCS features scheduled for this month has been delayed, with the new target date of November 16.

Hi Peter
Not to be too impatient but how does that target date look now?

The sooner we get to work finding bugs the sooner this very impressive version will be ready for release.

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Oper


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Posted: 11/16/2007, 2:51 PM

Quote Stanj:
Quote peterr:
.....the Beta release of the new CCS features scheduled for this month has been delayed, with the new target date of November 16.

Hi Peter
Not to be too impatient but how does that target date look now?

The sooner we get to work finding bugs the sooner this very impressive version will be ready for release.


will be faster/sooner if you already start looking for bug and notify to YesSupport,
i'm optimistic just waiting for a .10 or .11 Preview to check again the reports i submitted.


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Posted: 11/16/2007, 4:41 PM

Hi,

Unfortunately we have to further delay the Beta release, currently targetting Tuesday November 20.
Sorry to keep everyone waiting.

BTW, the Beta version will be quite similar to Preview, we only want to resolve couple remaining serious/evident bugs to qualify it as a testable product.
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Oper


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Posted: 11/16/2007, 6:11 PM

Would be great if we get a hold of another Preview .11 before Nov.20.

i think the preview have few errors that will be great to test again before 4.0 call.



Quote peterr:
Hi,

Unfortunately we have to further delay the Beta release, currently targetting Tuesday November 20.
Sorry to keep everyone waiting.

BTW, the Beta version will be quite similar to Preview, we only want to resolve couple remaining serious/evident bugs to qualify it as a testable product.

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Posted: 11/16/2007, 7:20 PM

Hi Oper,

Done as .13
(hope you know how to get it)
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Posted: 11/17/2007, 3:44 AM

8-)

Thank
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mwny


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Posted: 11/20/2007, 11:23 AM

I noticed that the FCKeditor does not seem to work with the preview.
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andrefogelman

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Posted: 11/20/2007, 12:33 PM

:-D
Do we get a Beta release today?
I am really anxious to test all the exciting new features.

andre
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Posted: 11/20/2007, 3:57 PM

yes Please more beta or Preview to keep the test. :)
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Posted: 11/20/2007, 6:02 PM

Hi,

We're still working on preparing the Beta installation, but unfortunately today not all pieces fit together and we couldn't create properly working installation. We'll continue working on this and will release Beta ASAP, if not later today than tomorrow.
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wkempees
Posted: 11/20/2007, 6:12 PM

I Support you all, you're in my thoughts!

Walter
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"peterr" <peterr@forum.codecharge> schreef in bericht
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> Hi,
>
> We're still working on preparing the Beta installation, but unfortunately
> today
> not all pieces fit together and we couldn't create properly working
> installation. We'll continue working on this and will release Beta ASAP,
> if not
> later today than tomorrow.
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Posted: 11/21/2007, 10:30 AM

Hi all,

Hopefully it is still November 20 somewhere in the world, so we're not too late :-)

We've just released the Beta version into the Customer Area:
http://www.yessoftware.com/content.php?content_id=customers_home

The Beta is quite similar to the Preview version and still has some bugs and unfinished features. However, the difference from Preview is that it should be fairly stable, and we're ready to accept bug submissions and manage a list of known bugs and fixes.

I am gathering information about currently known bugs and later will create a new forum for Beta related discussions.
Note: the Ajax is not ready yet for Java and ColdFusion but we didn't want to keep everybody else waiting.
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Posted: 11/21/2007, 11:41 AM

peterr,
This is great news. Give my Thanks to the Yes Software Team (including you) for thier hard work.
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asaavedra

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Posted: 11/21/2007, 3:02 PM

Hello, I just installed the .14 preview, and it looks incredible. However I'd like to see the CCS project involved in the online demo at http://examples.codecharge.com/Ajax/Default.php. When do you think these source files will be available?

Many thanks.

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wkempees
Posted: 11/22/2007, 2:57 AM

3 cheers!
Happy ThanksGiving, turkey to all.
It's been 20-th here for a while now, will tear off the calendar now.
Thanks.

Walter

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Posted: 11/30/2007, 1:18 AM

Teste

peterr escreveu:
> Hi Oper,
>
> Done as .13
> (hope you know how to get it)
>
> One new major issue: Ajax Dependent Listboxes stopped working, due to internal
> redesign.
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