sksinghddn
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| Posted: 11/29/2007, 11:51 PM |
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dear frieds,
in addition to ccs learning what else is suggested for a efficient portal development.
sks
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Stanj
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| Posted: 11/30/2007, 8:35 AM |
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Quote sksinghddn:
dear frieds,
in addition to ccs learning what else is suggested for a efficient portal development.
sks
CCS is really a complete development environment all by itself but most users find that their HTML and CSS editors they usually use for static pages are more versatile in web page visual design. I use Dreamweaver CS3 for polishing the presentation of web applications and interactive sites created in CCS 3.2. I also have Microsoft Impressions Web which seems to be good also but I am not as familiar with it so I stick with Adobe Dreamweaver. For developing the site for database interaction, there is NOTHING more effective or as quick as CodeCharge Studio 3, and version 4 has just gone into Beta testing and when ready for production sites, CCS will further it's lead over competitors.
Any time spent learning CCS will be repaid many times over in increased productivity and faster results. To get the most out of it, pay particular attention to the capabilities of the Events builtin functions and Custom Code. With these, there is no need to modify the core files generated by CCS to accomplish just about anything you want to do..
There are some very good add-ons for CCS3 available which can be seen in the Market Place section of this site, some are free and others are very reasonable. Check out the add-ons from CodeChargeTools....very low cost and very good, with wonderful support.
I am not a professional developer but just create sites and web applications for my own business and for friends. Even with that amateur/hobbiest status, the sites that CCS has created for me have been solid, highly reliable and very profitable.
You picked the right product. Have fun
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sksinghddn
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| Posted: 11/30/2007, 11:24 PM |
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thanks friend,
you helped me a lot. it was a nice and step by step guide for me. one little doubt, to which technology i shoud be faithful php or asp.net.
sks
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ckroon
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| Posted: 12/01/2007, 10:31 AM |
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Lol.. well that's a big can of worms right there.
I am partial to PHP. I find it to be more robust and more powerful.
But I am sure someone will disagree with me :)
I would ask the CCS Gods like Walter, Datadoit and MamboBrown what they prefer :)
Apologies to any Gods I may have missed.
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JimmyCrackedCorn
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| Posted: 12/01/2007, 11:50 AM |
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there are many things to consider in making this decision. below are a few,
-do you generally like Microsoft products and technologies or not? (ASP.NET is Microsoft while PHP is open source) for many people this is a key consideration (whether that is logical or not!)
-do you have any programming experience with PHP or ASP.NET (or even ASP)?
-is there someone else in your organization/team who would have an opinion on these things (or perhaps have the final word)?
-do you have any customer requirements you must meet? for example, many of our customers have their web sites based on Microsoft technologies so it makes more sense for us to accomodate that and develop their web apps using ASP.NET or ASP. on the other hand you may have customers who use open source web solutions and they might be better served with PHP.
-same thing for your prospective customers. do they tend to go a certain way with their web sites? if so you should probably go there too rather than introducing a different/incompatible technology.
the cool thing about programming in general (and specifically CCS) is once you learn it you can usually switch to different languages fairly easily. personally I like ASP and someday soon will convert everything to ASP.NET. but occassionally I have to do something in PHP and I find it is not very difficult to do so.
so if you don't know which to choose just toss a coin and get started!!! CCS is going to do most of the work for you anyway!
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wkempees
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| Posted: 12/03/2007, 3:22 PM |
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Further to JCC:
If you plan to deploy your resulting application on an ISP hosted webserver,
the choice is also influenced by the availability and cost of that hosting
solution.
In my humble experience, PhP/MySQL (in many version combinations) are the
most popular hosting solutions available at low to moderate cost.
Win/ASP .Net ISP Hosting solutions are more scarse and more expensive (now
why would that be).
We develop both customer applications and self exploited (commercial)
applications.
The latter are 100% PhP/MySQL.
Walter
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JimmyCrackedCorn
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| Posted: 12/03/2007, 4:42 PM |
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Quote wkempees:
Win/ASP .Net ISP Hosting solutions are more scarse and more expensive
we have found this to be changing lately. a couple of years ago we were paying 2x for Windows hosting and having to choose from a very limited number of hosts.
today we are finding many, many hosting companies offering Windows hosting and they are usually offering it for the same price as their Linux hosting.
we are currently evaluating godaddy.com's Windows hosting priced from $3.99/mo to $14.99/mo! I have been impressed with their low-priced domain registration for a long time and so far their shared hosting is looking pretty good too.
DISCLAIMER: I do not work for godaddy nor can I vouch for them! choose your web hosting based on your needs!
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mamboBROWN
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| Posted: 12/06/2007, 7:21 PM |
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ckroon
Thanks for the compliment!!!
sksinghddn
I am in agreement (with the postings above) with using the technology that your client is current using which will definitely be different from shop to shop. I must admit that I am definitely a HUGE fan of PHP and will probably be for some time to come. Based on my current professional experience what seems to be the new thing is to be famailiar with both technologies PHP and .NET. I actually use them both at my current day job. Depending on how many clients you have maybe you can see which way the majority of them are leaning. I don't think you can go wrong with either one........
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sksinghddn
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| Posted: 12/07/2007, 1:51 AM |
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i am not a professional web developer. i have commited to my college to develop a portal. users are expected to be near about 300 from staff and 25000 students. students and staff will get their relative information.
college may afford both php and .net. so its me who has to decide......
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wkempees
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| Posted: 12/07/2007, 4:50 AM |
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Decisions Decisions.
Good Luck.
- Number of users, no influence on the platform except you should use a
database (MsSQL/MySQL) and not msaccess.
Walter
"sksinghddn" <sksinghddn@forum.codecharge> schreef in bericht
news:2475917a4d1292@news.codecharge.com...
>i am not a professional web developer. i have commited to my college to
>develop
> a portal. users are expected to be near about 300 from staff and 25000
> students.
> students and staff will get their relative information.
>
> college may afford both php and .net. so its me who has to decide......
> ---------------------------------------
> Sent from YesSoftware forum
> http://forums.codecharge.com/
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datadoit
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| Posted: 12/07/2007, 6:12 AM |
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wkempees wrote:
> - Number of users, no influence on the platform except you should use a
> database (MsSQL/MySQL) and not msaccess.
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Allow me to emphasize the "not msaccess" part...
NOT MSACCESS!!!
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datadoit
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| Posted: 12/07/2007, 6:22 AM |
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sksinghddn wrote:
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> college may afford both php and .net. so its me who has to decide......
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Be kind to your educational community, and not bind them to a particular
corporation's technology (ie: ASP, .Net, J2EE, SQL Server, Oracle,
etc.). Education and Open Source are synonymous with one another.
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JimmyCrackedCorn
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| Posted: 12/07/2007, 1:17 PM |
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Quote datadoit:
sksinghddn wrote:
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> college may afford both php and .net. so its me who has to decide......
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Be kind to your educational community, and not bind them to a particular
corporation's technology (ie: ASP, .Net, J2EE, SQL Server, Oracle,
etc.). Education and Open Source are synonymous with one another.
lots of organizations are quite successfully implementing "corporation's technology" as opposed to open source.
make your decision on facts and needs as opposed to emotions!
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JimmyCrackedCorn
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| Posted: 12/07/2007, 1:22 PM |
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Quote wkempees:
- Number of users, no influence on the platform except you should use a
database (MsSQL/MySQL) and not msaccess.
Walter
I'd agree given the numbers of users, HOWEVER, Access gets a bad rap sometimes. It is actually a pretty robust database for smaller online applications including commerce. We have numerous active online apps that have been running on Access for over 8 years without a single glitch.
I sometimes wonder whether MS is unhappy with how well Access actually works and releases negative "propaganda" on it to encourage migration to SQL Server!
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| Posted: 12/07/2007, 2:04 PM |
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JimmyCrackedCorn wrote:
> Quote datadoit:
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> lots of organizations are quite successfully implementing "corporation's
> technology" as opposed to open source.
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> make your decision on facts and needs as opposed to emotions!
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There is an enormous amount of influence from corporations in the
classroom, ultimately for the benefit of the corporation and not
necessarily for the student. Open Source provides an alternative to the
corporate bindings in our schools.
This is a hot topic across educational America. Trust me, we could bang
heads on this for weeks. :)
Freedom of choice is indeed an emotional issue. The absolute beauty of
CodeCharge is the inherent freedom of choice in it's design. As long as
CCS is used as the management and design tool, you can't go wrong.
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JimmyCrackedCorn
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| Posted: 12/07/2007, 4:01 PM |
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Quote datadoit:
There is an enormous amount of influence from corporations in the
classroom
sure, corporations supply their books, their desks, their computers, etc. I guess that doesn't bother me much. lots of students have benefited immensely because Apple (a corporation) donated computers to schools.
Quote datadoit:
This is a hot topic across educational America. Trust me, we could bang heads on this for weeks. :)
The topic is global and everywhere including the educational field. And lots of people engage in long, drawn-out, mostly pointless debates about why their preference is The One True Way!
Quote datadoit:
The absolute beauty of CodeCharge is the inherent freedom of choice in it's design. As long as CCS is used as the management and design tool, you can't go wrong.
we are definitely on the same page here!!!
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wkempees
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| Posted: 12/07/2007, 4:50 PM |
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To support Yes Software.......
Purchase CodeChargeStudio Professional (Full) edition, perpetual.
will allow you to address the choice of your user,
will allow you to adress other choices
will allow you to switch choices
will give you all the options available in CCS.
(will allow Yes to even further wow us)
Walter
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| Posted: 12/09/2007, 10:05 AM |
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sksinghddn,
Five Small Adviced.
1) Codecharge
2) Use the Language/ Script you know best or your developer/IT.
(All language/script are the same) Compiled version has some advantage and some disadvantage. Go with the script you know best.
3) Linux / Windows cost are same, use the one you know best or your IT Support.
4) MySQL or MSSQL express both will do the work, same advice Go with the one you know best
5) Dont be afraid toask (everthing is out there)
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