Jan K. van Dalen
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| Posted: 07/19/2008, 8:59 PM |
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Peter, playing with the current version. Like what I see.
Now, is the CodeCharge template meant to be use with or without a Style?
IOW, will we need to use a page template or will there be a time that
Artisteer will produce a CCS Style?
Thanks.
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| Posted: 07/24/2008, 2:24 AM |
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Yes I agee with you too, "Artisteer" needs to produce CCS Style in same time and things shold be perfect then.
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wkempees
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| Posted: 07/24/2008, 5:37 AM |
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Testing......
It seems to create 'Basic' style
Walter
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peterr
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| Posted: 07/25/2008, 11:33 PM |
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Yes, in this first prototype Artisteer includes the 'Basic' style to show how any forms can be placed within the overall design frame (page background, header, layout).
I'm not sure if Artisteer should or can create CCS styles since Artisteer creates much better styles than those. I use Artisteer styles instead of CCS styles, like in this example created with CCS: http://www.whoablog.com/
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wkempees
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| Posted: 07/26/2008, 3:09 AM |
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Peterr
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I'm not sure if Artisteer should or can create CCS styles since Artisteer creates much better styles than those. I use Artisteer styles instead of CCS styles
That said, how do you do that.
As we, using builders as starting point, create our components,we (Project settings->Styles) have to make a choice as to which style we would like.
I mostly use Dynamic to have a good starting point as to changing styles later and then choose a style as default.
The builders generate our components with the classes set to various tags.
What do you do to integrate aristeers styles?
Not that I cannot find out, but always like a headstart.......
Walter
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peterr
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| Posted: 07/26/2008, 10:20 PM |
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Hi,
First I want to point out that a good Website design is a combination of stylesheet and HTML design, therefore creating even the "best CCS style" (or CSS style) will not change much within existing applications. Instead, both HTML and CSS would need to modified to achieve great results.
I use the same process as with any Web design provided by a designer:
I manually remove the HTML around the forms (mainly the form header and footer) and replace it with the one that Artisteer creates, or sometimes just replace it with any form layout that I need. For example on couple blog forms I removed almost all HTML and left only a few labels. And I see that this forum page also doesn't have typical CCS form headers, therefore I assume it was modified manually.
In my application I modify forms manually only on public pages, which usually are not many - only 2 such pages in the blog application. And the blog has only 7 or 8 forms that I had to modify manually. This took about 1 hour, and now I can modify any form in 5-10 minutes. I continue using standard CCS forms and styles only on admin pages.
However, there are still a few things that can be done in both Artisteer and CCS to automate the above process. Therefore the current version of Artisteer Beta supports only an initial basic integration method, while I'd expect further improvements within a few months.
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