Sam
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| Posted: 03/07/2003, 1:29 PM |
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Hi, I am still using the good old CodeCharge 2.0, developed many projects and don't want to use CCS. Does anybody know what is the future of CodeCharge, when the new release is coming up??? YesSoftware seems to be very quite on this product.
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Robert
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| Posted: 03/08/2003, 7:45 PM |
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Sam, I can feel your pain. I am surprized, there are still many users of CodeCharge 2.0 but nobody is raising voice. Seems like YesSoftware has no plans for the next release of CC.
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Tony M
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| Posted: 03/08/2003, 10:04 PM |
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Sam
Why don't you email YesSoftware direct...for an answer?
...and let us all see their reply...or not
Good luck
Tony M
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beshoo
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| Posted: 03/10/2003, 6:25 AM |
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Do you have any plan to update CC2.5 in (generated section) to be look like CCS
I think it is rely serious thing cos if you change the fundamental way of the generating in CCS and I think it is to GOOD side not a to bad side
so it is better to make CC2 look like CCS "fundamentally" in a manner of speaking
so it will be good step for CC cos i don't like the visual IDE section
CC2 is FASTER.
So please update cc2 to be like CCS in the code fundamentally section
And abut the Default Style
I rely love CCS new Style
And the small images it is rely nice
Please can CC2 have a same Styles
i rellly like CCS Styles & Templates
it is look WOOOOOOOW
i love it
but i like to use it in CC2.5
cose i dont like to work in CCS platform
it is relly slow and crach a lot
so what i have to do to conveart the CCS Styles to cc2.5 ?
will you please Codecharge team to make an abdate to the CC2.5 to be look like CCS...
just in the :
1- Styles making
2- sql builder
3- code generation in php section
and the characteristic that ccs has it
we beg of you do that for us
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Sam
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| Posted: 03/10/2003, 1:27 PM |
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beshoo,
I do agree with you beshoo, the visual IDE section of CC2 is FASTER. It is very stable, does not crash and easy to use. Coding is much easier.
Nothing against CCS. It's a great product; full of features BUT CC is still the BEST.
CC Lovers, speak-up loud please.
Sam.
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Darius
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| Posted: 03/10/2003, 4:35 PM |
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I agree with Sam:
CC is still the BEST.
CC Lovers, speak-up loud please.
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Justin
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| Posted: 03/11/2003, 6:16 AM |
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200% agree with Sam, I've developed several projects using CC. No problem at all, however, developed a few with CCS, it crashed many times, it is slow and not very friendly. Our main objective is custom coding. Which is great in CC. I am also looking forward to see the next release of CodeCharge NOT CCS.
Thank you Sam for bringing up this dead topic again in life.
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feha
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| Posted: 03/11/2003, 7:52 AM |
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For serious applications/development I'm still using CodeCharge !
regards
feha
[www.vision.to]
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Marco
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| Posted: 03/11/2003, 2:30 PM |
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Hi,
I am not a programmer and not a IT pro. But with CC I can make real working Webbased Business solutions like a IT Pro.
CCS is too dificult for me as no programmer and I am more than 100% productive with CC.
So be productive with CC and if you ar a IT pro go for CCS and we are all satisfied with the software of Yes.
Regards,
Marco
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beshoo
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| Posted: 03/18/2003, 4:14 AM |
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We need more sounds
We need more soundsWe need more sounds
We need more sounds
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Steven
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| Posted: 03/18/2003, 8:24 AM |
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It would be nice to hear something or anything at all on whats planned with CC, whereas I do use CCS i do still prefer CC, personally I tend to do the main work on any project , the core assembly In CC and then if needed import it to CCS, but most times I can complete all within CC, once you get your head around controlling the Looks with the header / footer arrangements in each page item, it comes alive.
Whats next if anything for CC ?
Steven Dowd
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No Name
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| Posted: 03/18/2003, 11:14 AM |
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I second both Feha and Steve Dowd. CCS is just an interesting concept.
But I too use CC_v205 for any serious work. CC & Dreamweaver make a great combination.
YesSoftware needs to continue development and improvements on CC !
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Mehmet Ozdemir
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| Posted: 03/18/2003, 1:30 PM |
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>>CCS is just an interesting concept.
OK, thats enough. CC is not in the same league as CCS. The power and flexability of CCS is amazing compared not only to CC but many other products I've tried.
Sure it takes more effort initially, but once you get over that is all too easy.
Having said that CCS need DOCUMENTATION, not howto or faq, but proper API documentation with atleast 2 samples of the documented method, function etc in every language supported, eg asp, php, perl, jsp etc etc .
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RonB
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| Posted: 03/18/2003, 4:21 PM |
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I dont think CC will see a lot more enhancements. If they add to much ot will come to close to CCS. Fot CC to remain a viable product there has to be a clear distinction between CC and CCS. I've made the transition from CC to CCS right at the beginning and have no regrets. The features CCS is offering at the moment outclass CC by far. If it stays that way CC might be a product Yes can sell. It would be the "light" and affordable version and CCS the professional tool.
I think CCS is far more than just a concept. CC is a scratchpad and CCS the complete toolkit. CC was fun to work with but for realy professional webapps you need the features CCS offers. CCS does everything CC can and then some.
Ron
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No Name
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| Posted: 03/18/2003, 6:57 PM |
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Sorry guys, but veryone has the right to express their opinions without being "flamed" at. That is part of growing up and maturing. As far as CCS goes it needs much of that too.
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Marcus
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| Posted: 03/18/2003, 7:02 PM |
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I also think it is time to separate the toys from the tools.
I have seen here and on the web alot of good work done with CC. I have yet to see any comparable work done with CCS.
The up and coming release of CCS should not really be V2.0, but an increment of V1.0 -- V1.5 ?
There are tet too many small issue for it to be a milestone release.
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feha
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| Posted: 03/18/2003, 9:18 PM |
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Yes CC is different thing than CCS (vice versa).
On this topic we was talking about CC and not CCS.
What I don't like in CCS: You can't choose NON TEMPLATES PHP ....
(If You wanted to compare ...)
regards
feha
[www.vision.to]
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DaveRexel
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| Posted: 03/18/2003, 11:35 PM |
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Well, I like both products, as a very busy man I use the *right* instrument for the job at hand, having used both products since their inception I use both with ease using CC for simpler projects not expected to grow in complexity.
CCS is however the best web application development program ever, albeit with poor documentation and lack of examples.
Why choose? I hope CC will be refined without feature-bloat or paradigm changes, it would be very interesting to hear Yes views on the subject.
Greetings
Dave
www.rexdesign.com
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Karen
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| Posted: 03/19/2003, 6:42 AM |
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I also use CC2.05 and would like to renew the support but there isn't such an option. Would love to hear from YesSoftware about the future of CC...
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Sam
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| Posted: 03/19/2003, 7:26 AM |
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I am thrilled to see opinions of all of you. This issue is in boiling plate. I am wondering why YesSoftware is so quite about it??? I opened this thread NOT TO COMPARE CCS with CC but to know what is the future of CC. I know that CCS has a lot more features but CC is for serious developers who what to complete the project without any complications, fear and bugs. I used both products and found that none of my client came back with bugs of any project which I designed using CC however, most of my projects with CCS caused problems not to just me but also to my clients.
Thanks.
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RonB
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| Posted: 03/19/2003, 11:28 AM |
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My companies intranet is used daily by 350+ users. It has several webapps supplying managers with management info from our oracle database. The intranet runs on php and mysql. I even work with the beta versions(CCS beta4, mysql 4.12). Never had any problems. It also incorporates two helpdesksystems, one for our IT department and one for our clientregistration software. It has CMS components, sends email etc etc. Everything designed and developed with CCS. Never had any problems running the stuff. Had some problems during developing but that's to be expected when you're running beta's. Never had a problem I couldn't work arround untill it was fixed by Yes. The only real problem I had was beta2 it didn't run at all, just crashed so I switched back to beta 1 until beta3 came out.
What kind of problems did you and your clients encounter?
Ron
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Walter
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| Posted: 03/19/2003, 12:16 PM |
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Hi all,
I have to say I've used cc from almost the beginning but when ccs came out I found the interface much nicer and far more powerful. I have just upgraded to ccs 2.0 bata 4.1 and love it. Yes has done a great job with both products, CC and CCS. I can only hope they keep up the great work and the great service they provide with it.
Thanks,
Walter
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beshoo
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| Posted: 03/21/2003, 8:01 AM |
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Please Yes. Did you have any comment ?
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No Name
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| Posted: 03/22/2003, 2:44 PM |
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I know I said that I prefer CC2 over CCS.
But the latest, pre-release, version is getting my attention too. And it come with pretty good documentation !!!
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beshoo
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| Posted: 03/23/2003, 2:27 PM |
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I know and thanks
but my point is the IDE it is to bad i like to use the dreameaver4 to make my site not the CCS to make my html <
that is my point
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DaveRexel
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| Posted: 03/23/2003, 3:52 PM |
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quote beshoo
>I know and thanks
>but my point is the IDE it is to bad i like to use the dreameaver4 to make my >site not the CCS to make my html <
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>that is my point
Dear Beshoo
Please try to use DW 4 or MX as External Editor in CCS v2 as explained in latest help file, you will be pleasantly surprised.
Greetings
Dave
Visit the CCS Knowledge Base at
http://www.rexdesign.com/ccs/default.php
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beshoo
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| Posted: 03/23/2003, 4:07 PM |
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Dear DaveRexel
thank you for your re
but what i am looking for is to finish my PHP work
and after that go to DW-mx
but when you use CCS you have to use the html or the designing tools
i like to say the the CC interface is more pro. it make the work fast
and i like to tell the measure of the professionalism is how you make your work fast and with no problem .
but not at all entity a lot of tools and a bad navigation. i mean CCS
what the measure of the professionalism u sow in CCS ?
a lot of problem
and a slow and crach .
0---------
sorry for my bad english 
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Pete
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| Posted: 03/23/2003, 4:28 PM |
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I desperately needed an easy to use and not to expensive tool that could help me, as a non programmer, make dynamic pages. This in addition to WSP Fusion (Former Netobjects). CC seemed to be the trick. And partly makes that come trough.
What I found dissapointing is the steep learning curve. But I see the advantages when you reach the top of the hill and the examples are of great help. More examples are needed though. And I think that a big market is out there for Yes if they should succeed in making a product that is more visually oriented, maybe with teplates or wizards,something at least much more easy to use for a target group of users that is less experienced with ASP and PHP programming.
By the way, the integration with Fusion is a piece of cake. We've put a lot of pressure on WSP to go for a CC-plugin, but their priorities lie probably somewhere else at the moment.
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max
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| Posted: 03/24/2003, 5:57 PM |
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We need more sound for how like cc and wana make an abdate to cc 3 :) in future
we have 2 year of free update and over that we dont have any problem to pay a small fee to support cc team,
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rip
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| Posted: 03/24/2003, 6:25 PM |
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yes we need more support for CC. I find CCS to be bloated, lacking, confusing, un-userfriendly, doesn't provide documentation; not easy to add your own coding; only uses templates, and the HTML wysiwyg editor sucks.
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